Unlocking Digital Identity: NamerTips and the Human Approach to Domain Names

What if the digital world was easily accessible and understandable, even for those not tech savvy? This episode brings in Chris from the NamerTips team to demystify the world of domain names, focusing not on the monetary value, but on the person behind the purchase. We touch on the human approach to the industry, the importance of naming rights, and how gaining a deeper understanding of domains can become an invaluable asset for future generations.

Get ready to unlock the web3 space as we explore the origins of NamerTips, a platform that's reshaping the way we approach domain names. We’ll walk you through their exciting pilot program, a game-changer in providing real education and understanding to individuals in the digital identity space. Strap in as Chris talks about the NamerTips mission to bridge the gap between complex technology and real people, and how they are taking steps to protect intellectual property in the rapidly evolving digital landscape.

Finally, we'll wrap up with a glimpse of what's on the horizon for NamerTips. Imagine the impact of acquiring a domain name with the right mindset, understanding its deeper meaning and potential beyond just a market value. We’ll reveal their innovative plans for the launch of a virtual library and their advocacy role in the web three space. Stay tuned for an exciting update about the upcoming expo in Vegas, a chance to connect with industry leaders and learn more about the world of domains and digital identities. So don’t miss out, join us on this journey to understand the power of digital identity through the lens of NamerTips.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:06

Music.

Speaker 2: 2:00

Hello, hello everyone. We will get started in just a moment. As you guys are coming into the space, if you could, please do me a favor and like and retweet, show some love. Let's get some people in here. Yeah, very excited for today's AMA Also pinned a few things up to the top of the space. So, yeah, feel free to look up there as well. And, yeah, as with all AMAs, if anybody wants to come up and ask any questions, feel free to request to speak to them Now that I've shown up how you doing today, sir.

Speaker 3: 2:32

I'm doing well and it feels different to be in this position.

Speaker 2: 2:37

Right, right, that's gonna be a good one though.

Speaker 3: 2:41

Yeah, it is, I agree totally.

Speaker 2: 2:45

And obviously, like this has been a long time coming, very excited to deep dive, you know, really into the whole. You know concept behind Namertips and get everybody on the same page that I'm on. You know a lot of people have heard you in the spaces and they know like hey, that's the guy to listen to. So now we kind of get to give them the why. So, yeah, very excited.

Speaker 3: 3:09

Yeah, and I'm actually. I'm in the room with a few of my colleagues right now because I figured some people have heard my voice quite a few times, so they're thinking it is just me. So I just wanted to clear up that myth of this space today.

Speaker 2: 3:26

Yes sir, yes sir, Also looking forward to meeting you guys in person out in Vegas. We are getting super close to that Feel like we really walked this one up right, like we've been kind of counting it down and doing spaces and creating a lot of content leading up to it. A lot of what we've been doing together has kind of been leading up to that as well. So very excited to finally see all this coming for vision.

Speaker 3: 3:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what it seems like? Just yesterday the expo was being introduced and then it was just like a whirlwind of things just started to happen and conversation started to be had. And look, here we are we're only, we're less than eight days away from you know, really igniting what will hopefully be some, you know, long-term relationships.

Speaker 2: 4:13

Yes, sir, one again. Reminder everybody, as you're coming into the space, if you guys could please share it out also Again, pin some things up to the top. Some of these things we will be referencing during this AMA. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and get into it. These are a little bit different from the tech talks because usually I start off with a small talk in news, but these are all about our builders. So, that said, I would like to welcome everybody to another Tech Talk AMA where we highlight and dive with builders, entrepreneurs and visionaries in the Web3 Digital ID and domain space.

Speaker 2: 4:52

Behind the iHeart Domains Platform is Winner AirDrop and, as always, our tech talks are recorded and you can view our content archive on our website at iHeartDomainscom. Also on our link three, which is link three dot to backslash, defi wallet, which has not only our content archive but also has our content calendar, so you can be alerted for new spaces and new AMAs as they before they get recorded. Also, once we do record our spaces, they are available in podcast form on every major podcast player, including Apple and Spotify. So yeah, once again, if you guys can like or retweet, we are going to go ahead and get started and, as I had said earlier that this run really is special. It is different. Those of you usually know Chris from being in the co-host spot and quite a few of our tech talk spaces and, as I said, you've lent wealth of knowledge and expertise and insight into, yeah, virtually every subject. So it's good to kind of turn the attention and focus on you so people can get a better understanding of the purpose you serve in the ecosystem. So, yeah, one of the things that's pinned to the top that I want people to kind of focus on and reference, as we're talking, is a series of articles that were pinned by Namertips and I'm so I'm going to refer kind of to two different things. Sometimes I'll for to Chris and sometimes I'll for to Namertips, and I'm referring to Namertips, I'm referring to y'all as the collective, obviously. So, for people listening back, like, yeah, hopefully you separate those, but yes, pinned to the top or a series of articles that were just recently pinned by Namertips and they were released in collaboration with I Heart Demains. So, as we're talking and, you know, as you guys are learning more about Namertips, I really encourage you guys to visit the website, give them a read. They are very, very insightful and, as we go through this, you'll see.

Speaker 2: 6:57

Definitely that Namertips is, you know, approaching naming from a completely different side than a lot of us are used to, which kind of focuses on just the money money sell, and this focuses on, you know, the person who buys what has been sold. What do they do with it now? So, yeah, and also as usual, if anybody has any questions, request a speaker role, we're going to go ahead and get started, sir. So let's start with the first usual and obvious question, which is what is Namertips? Explain to us kind of the story behind it came about and also explain to us the role that you serve within Namertips as well. What kind of brought you into this initiative?

Speaker 3: 7:41

Well, definitely so. For those who have been wondering, you know, namertips is a digital education and advocacy brand. Right, extra emphasis on brand. You know, in the Web3 space we hear of a lot of teams, we hear a lot of individuals, but if we look outside of the Web3 space, we know that one thing that people form relationships with especially consumers as brands. So Namertips is meant to go ahead and serve as a branded arm in this Web3 space that people can trust and can guide them on their journey as they get more acclimated with, like, digital naming and FT's blockchain technology overall, because it can be a little bit, you know, intimidating for some people and I can only assume that that's going to be more, more the case as time goes on.

Speaker 3: 8:29

But, uniquely enough, the way that Namertips came about was, you know, I'm actually, you know, on the team of a creative consulting and IP management group here at NYC. So you know, we work with creatives of all ages and all different creative mediums to basically maximize the value of their art system with getting placements and things of that nature. Anybody who's familiar with you know what getting placements entails. It just involves getting your artwork or your music or your IP licensed by companies and used in a fashion that allows you to be able to, you know, generate revenue and residuals from it.

Speaker 3: 9:09

So what ended up happening, the way that Namertips came about, was, you know, we automatically, in that side of the company, we were looking at ways to help artists and creatives get the most out of their works right, and so blockchain technology came across the table and, naturally, naming caught our attention because, you know, before you meet the work, you meet the artists, you meet their name, you meet their identity, their brand, their reputation, and it just it turned into like a rabbit hole thing where we actually came in through the handshake side of things, right. So the idea of having a TLD and being able to equip a creative with the TLD and all of the things that they could do with it, it just, I mean, it was a very exciting concept. However, as we, you know, kind of was a part of that community and started to engage, we realized that there was a larger opportunity, right, a larger opportunity to educate.

Speaker 3: 10:10

a lot of individuals in the tech space aren't necessarily the most personable, and that was something that just kind of you know it left us in one of those places where we said this is not going to be something that has longevity if it doesn't have a component that appeals to the people. And then, before you know it, it started. You know, I got put on the. I got put in the hot seat because I started as community engagement liaison for Namertips and it was recently, in October, that I was promoted to strategy director, right. So I guess all this being on X and going back and forth with folks, I guess paid off. But and that's me joking, of course I think that what it was was, you know, the team, seeing that, you know being in the quote unquote trenches.

Speaker 3: 10:54

I got it from both sides. I understand those who are technological and what they're aiming to achieve, especially if they're investors as well, but then I also have that part of myself that you know recognizes that we can't leave the people out of this, and it's just for some reason it just feels like that's the case. And so you know, in a nutshell, that's what Namertips is here to feel the void on, to ensure that this doesn't just ride out as a technological and money making situation, but that everybody their grandmothers, their aunts, their uncles, cousins, brothers, the people that we love and that depend on us. They have an easy entryway into web three, so I know that was a bit long-winded, but yeah, it's been quite the journey.

Speaker 2: 11:36

No, I really appreciated that. That was a great introduction and also what you said at the end. There is extremely important Something I wanted to highlight as well Because, like you said, you know you and this is the beautiful thing about your platform you and I have had like a lot of conversations. In most of our conversations focus on the direction, which is, you know, how do we onboard regular people? And that was one of the things I think I brought up in a Twitter space yesterday is, like, you know, that's that's the breakthrough. Right, all of our conversations are bull run this and floor price this and, and, as you said, these conversations are geared really towards the people that exist within our same bubble.

Speaker 2: 12:19

But real, if you're an investor, right, if that's why you're here, there's nothing wrong with it. This isn't the shame. People who are here to capitalize on the opportunities, like the ecosystem needs all kinds but if you're an investor, like simple math says, you need more people interested in the product in order for the product to sell more. Right, exactly, exactly, and that comes. That. That breakout of the bubble comes from being a connect with real people and you can't connect with the average ordinary person that's spending their last dollar to buy one of these things by saying in some time in the distant future you'll be able to sell it for a couple of nickels more. You have to connect with that person by saying, hey, this is how you use it and empower your current situation right now. This is how you build that economic freedom and all that good stuff. So, yeah, I love that that. That is kind of the position that you guys are coming from in your existence in space. Sorry for being long-winded with my sponsor there.

Speaker 3: 13:14

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, it's actually. You know, it's important, believe it or not, you know, for folks who are familiar with just how the digital space works in general, there has always been kind of like this disconnect between the technological world and, ironically enough, the real people use the technology right and believe it or not. I think for some that that comes with its benefits, but I think, in the grand scheme of ensuring that this next wave of digital experience is more equitable, I don't think that that's going to fly, right. Nobody on the team on this side thinks that it's going to fly, and I think that, like I said earlier, the we never set off for this to be the go Right. It was kind of just one of those things where, when an opportunity presents itself, you capitalize on it. When it requires you to be of service, you don't hesitate to do so. So to launch a brand that is unbiased, right, neutral about everything, not going to really take too much of a stance. That's why, if you look at the Namertips logo, a lot of what we do brand-wise it's black and white, right. There's no gray area. The only time that you're going to see color is when it's attached to a specific endeavor, like in the case of the recent release of the Deeper the Name soundtrack, which we'll get into a little bit later. You see that there's color used.

Speaker 3: 14:40

All of this is it's a symbolic representation of where we believe the space needs to go, because in Wave 3, anybody who's been following you know there's tons of color, there's tons of noise, there's tons, but it's a bit difficult to get a grasp on what really benefits the people. Like, we hear the onboarding of millions and billions of people, but where does the benefit come in? So, like over here, you know we have a program right now that we run bi-weekly and it's a pilot Web 3 and blockchain onboarding program and you know we work with young people and adults to really just introduce them to Web 3, train them on digital etiquette and opportunities and things of that nature, things that, at the end of the day, probably aren't going to be very popular in the Web 3 space right now, because, you know, look at it this way A lot of people consider themselves Degens. It's a whole culture that comes with Web 3, but it's not, dare I say, family compatible, right, and I think that that can hurt the space more than help it if it's not tackled.

Speaker 3: 15:48

So Namertips is just doing its part to make sure that we don't close that demographic of people out, because you know I think you were sharing in a space before that you know you have a family. You know I have a family. We know others who have families. My colleagues have families and the Web 3 that we have now is not necessarily conducive to bringing a family into you know. So if we're going to be onboarding billions, part of that billions are going to be family, women and children and everybody else, and do we want them to come into this environment, right?

Speaker 2: 16:20

Yeah, that's actually something I was going to ask you about, because you guys do have a particular focus or demographic that you focus on and I wanted to ask you in particular about that. You know, like I said, you know a lot of us that are currently in the space on the tech side. I think a lot of us are probably older and that's why we're coming here simply for that economic opportunity. But you're right, the people who are truly going to understand this, that are going to get this, that are going to build the cool stuff, that are going to take this to the next level, are the fresh minds that see technology as an opportunity to build and really don't care about the money. Right, that comes second. So let's kind of talk about your pilot program and working with young people and adults. Can you tell us a little bit about that focus and, yeah, like, what kind of response and initiatives you guys have going on in that perspective?

Speaker 3: 17:14

Yeah, so that's actually so. I'm going to be honest with you. This is actually one of the things that I'm most proud to speak about, because before becoming the strategy director for Namertips and being a part of the agency, the creative consulting agency, you know I was a youth services specialist, so you know my job was to put together programming for underserved communities, and that's really important to me. So I think that having programming and opportunities in place to give people a chance, regardless of where they are in the world and what their cultural backgrounds are, their social economic status, is, I believe that that's very important. I feel this, I feel that's the human thing to do, right? So, you know, pardon me if I get extra enthusiastic when I talk about the pilot program, but yeah, so.

Speaker 3: 18:03

So we work with young people, and the young people range between ages 11 and 17. The adults are highest. Our oldest adult, or eldest adult, if you will, is 42. Right, so our bracket is going to be between that, that particular window, and what we've done is that first, we we've laid out a curriculum, right, so we have a curriculum that outlines what the digital sector is right, what opportunities exist, and we bridge what they already know about the digital sector with what they need to know, right. And you'll be surprised that with these bi weekly courses, the individuals come back and they're more, it's like because we deal with technology every day in our lives, right. But you'll be surprised how many people have phones but don't know how they work, right. They have phones that they don't and they don't know how they work. They don't know what domain names are, yet they type them in. They don't understand what data collection is, because they just hit except on cookies, and they because they're just trying to get to the site. And then another aspect of it is parenting, right, there is a disconnect between parents and creating safe environments for their children in the digital sector. A lot of parents, they just kind of get their children the phones, they hand them over and they're not really privy to what they're exposing their children to, right? So, basically, what the pilot program is is an opportunity to bridge that gap right, while at the same time teaching young people and adults about the future and rewarding them with opportunities that allow them to be able to leverage their knowledge that they've gained throughout the course. So we wrap up the course of the second quarter of 2024. And the reason that it's a pilot is that when we come back, after we wrap up in the second quarter, we're going to do an assessment of everything that we've gone over the curriculum, we've documented a lot of things, of gotten feedback from the participants and if everything sums up to what we believe it's going to be, we're going to go ahead and launch it at scale. So this is going to be with funding, it's going to be with sponsors and is going to be with a more publicized goal.

Speaker 3: 20:12

So anyone who has been following name or tips might be thinking well, why haven't I seen pictures of the young people? And you know all the things, all the typical things that you see where people are on a mission like that? But it's because we we are moving with scale in mind, right, we believe that you can have good intent nowadays, but you have to have that part woven in. That's about reaching the masses, right, because there's not enough people doing this. So you have a responsibility to say you know what, if we're going to go after this, we have to go after this in a major way.

Speaker 3: 20:44

We have to cross our T's and dot our eyes, because people do not play with their families, they do not play with their children and they are going to sit there and say listen, if we're going to allow your group, your team, to have access to the minds and the lives of our young people, you all better make sure that you all have this ironed out, and so that's what we've been doing. So, yeah, I, my goodness, we're looking forward to it. Everything is lining up to be a major success, but you know, on this side we don't count eggs before they hatch. So, into in the second quarter 2024, we will have some major updates about what came out of everything.

Speaker 2: 21:24

Not. Thank you for that. I'm actually blown away. For those of you who are listening to the space, it's a lot to take in. I don't think I know of another initiative that that certainly is dedicated as this. And for those of you who are just now coming through the space, we are having an AMA with Namer Chips. They are a educational platform within the Web 3 and digital identity space, as Chris just explained. You know, their initiative is really providing actual education and understanding and curriculum for people to not only to understand the digital space, but also naming and domains and kind of putting it all together like real education, real bringing, real use case or understanding for use cases and domains. Yeah, that is definitely a kind of what do you call it? Breath of fresh air is what some people will say, but there's another term for it. But it is definitely a different course charted than many in the space and it really is a breath of fresh air If it's again for onboarding and bringing people into the space.

Speaker 2: 22:28

These type of initiatives need to exist. We have far too many people the even people right now that have a lot of money in the space. I think, as I mentioned in a tweet a couple days ago, that don't even know how this whole thing really even works. You just know how that one thing works right, exactly, yeah, exactly. And how can you understand even the value of what you currently hold if you don't understand the whole of the space that you're participating in? And everything isn't about money. Some things are about, you know, evolution and actually making things better and easier for the people that come after us. So obviously you know that our relationship and our connection has been, you know, definitely based on our synergy and thought. There I want you to explain to us kind of the four C's that you've referenced oftentimes in space that we talked about, and break down what each of those mean and how it relates to, to Namertips and how you think they will shape Web 3.

Speaker 3: 23:26

Well, yeah, the four C's that the good old community, culture, creativity and commerce In the Web 3 space there's, if there was a focus, if I have to say there's a focus on one C more than the other, I will probably say commerce right now, and I think that it's a skewed approach to that, but kind of bagging up a little bit. Anybody who's been in this space knows that there's been talk of cycles, right? So in the crypto space you hear people talk cycles, but what Namertips our team likes to look at it through the lens of is through seasons, right? You know, every day people view things in seasons, right? Winter, fall, summer, spring, and we kind of view it the same way in a Web 3 space. But instead of spring, winter, summer and fall, we look at it through the lens of creativity, culture, commerce. And you know, culture or culture, creativity, commerce and creativity. I mean culture, community culture, creativity and commerce. Sorry about that, guys, it's a tongue twister we need it yeah it's a tongue twister yeah, I gotta work on that one.

Speaker 3: 24:32

But you know, first and foremost we've had the season of community, right, and it was a hard one to get through because of the fact that you heard a lot of people using community but it didn't seem like much was about community.

Speaker 3: 24:46

It took for us to hit this bear market for us to see how community driven a lot of projects and situations work, and we seen that it wasn't the case. We seen that community is not just a lot of people coming together, fomoing and hoping that their bags pump, ridiculing other projects and then just going about their way when nothing is working out. That's not how real life community works, right? So in the Web 3 space, there's going to be an emphasis on healthy community, right, that involves families and children, and so children and so on and so forth. That's going to help propel the space for right. Then you're going to go from the community side to the culture side, right, the culture side is more so a focus on how do we engage, how do we build together, how do we go about holding one another accountable? What are going to be our?

Speaker 3: 25:38

standards for this particular project, this particular protocol and this particular technology or this particular team. Right, the culture is very important, because the culture that you build and the culture that you tolerate ultimately sculpts what the future of any endeavor looks like. We're talking about the future of digital identity here, so we have to have a culture and check, or else we're going to have a lot of things from web 2 seep into web 3 and humanity is not going to be better as a result of it. The season that we're approaching now, right now in web 3, is creativity. Right, if you notice a lot of what's happening, web 3 seems real static. Right, there's a lot of promise, there's a lot of talk, there's a lot of hope, there's a lot of expectation, but there's a breakdown in giving people access to what that next thing is going to be, and creativity opens up the door for that.

Speaker 3: 26:32

If you notice, um, when the nft season came about, it was. It was about the art, but it wasn't about the art and, as a result of it not being about the art, a lot of great artists suffered. So you know, over here, you know, with namertips being birthed from a creative consulting agency. We understood that. Hurt us to see that, because we've seen a lot of people with great projects who were putting their all into these works and they were staking their faith in the blockchain and the opportunities that it afforded them. And then, once the bear market came and you know, all of the politics came into play, a lot of artists didn't get that liberation that they were hoping for and it was like, oh my goodness. But I think that in this next season, this next cycle, a lot of people in the web 3 space are referring to it as the next bull run, but it's the creative season. What's going to happen is that a lot of creatives and creative endeavors are going to see pinnacles reach that no one would have ever imagined, because at this point, we realize that just having a name and having the bag does you no good if nobody can use it or access what you're holding on to.

Speaker 3: 27:43

And then, last but not least, is the commerce. Once the creativity sector gets going and the artists and the creatives get what they're due, I think that's going to open up the door for a healthy commerce based situation. I think that we're going to see, of course, more buying, selling and trading of nfts and things of that nature, but I think that we're going to see more robust and engaging digital experiences and hopefully at the end of that, what we'll recognize is the need for us to maintain a healthy balance across the board with community culture, creativity and commerce, and so namer tips is kind of just in this space, to be a steward for that, to ensure that that happens and that it just doesn't, you know, serve as a discussion now and then it just kind of wings as a as a failed dream in the future I love that you've like, um, yeah, I love it, I'm kind of struggling, but we're still again, but I I love that you've kind of laid it out that way in an easy way for people to digest.

Speaker 2: 28:44

I wanted to touch back to something too. As you were speaking like, I kind of got lost in the thought of, like it's true, we do have a social responsibility, like everybody right now that's participating in the space, because we're so early and we are that extremely early, like everyone who is both selling a name is either creating a narrative or you're encouraging a narrative, and I almost wonder, like now we're we're what? 20 something years, almost 30 years from the advent of what we call web 2 or the traditional internet. I wonder how much of how it is today. Um, you know, as a result of the people that were participants way back then, and maybe some of it was even, uh, you know, they weren't even conscious of the way that they were participating in shaping, you know what it is today, the things that we you know there's great things about the internet that we like, and there's obviously, you know, a lot of things about the current structure and framework of the internet that we don't like, and we do have an opportunity now to kind of reshape that, and you know we're not necessarily reshaping the internet.

Speaker 2: 29:50

I think we've had those conversations as well that the web 2 will continue to exist, but certainly web 3 is a whole another platform that creates a whole other level of opportunity using technology, ownership and all that, and that's another, you know, probably next evolution of what we definitely need to to, you know, control the narrative on and, you know, play our part to do the right thing.

Speaker 2: 30:12

I wanted to also reach back into something you know as well that you were talking about. As far as creativity, you and I have all had a lot of conversations and you've given me a lot of advice in regards to my own creative works and one of the things that I think a lot of people you know skip over those creatives. You know not only the artists on the artwork side, but even those that are creating, you know, content and promoting whatever projects they have out there. It's about protecting that intellectual property and that's something that you guys also, you know, specialize in. Tell us a little bit about your expertise there and what you think you know the importance of protecting intellectual property will play in web 3.

Speaker 3: 30:56

Yeah, that's, yeah. So protecting your intellectual property, that's, that's. That's an entire conversation, right, that I think needs more emphasis because, you know, I, if I may, you know anyone who's in this space and they're familiar with the, the UD situation and the patent right, and this is not to to take a stance about whether or not they were on the, the, the, the, the correct or incorrect in with regard to getting the patent, but just talking about the patent itself and just hearing a lot of the people Speak from a place of ignorance, right in terms of what purpose a patent serves, the process for getting one. And you know, on this side we deal with IP management. So we we've we have experience with with filing the copyrights, the trademarks, the patents and things of that nature, and you know Licensing these things out and understanding what power it gives you when you're able to Acknowledge your claim legally over a particular piece of work or a particular project. When you talk about the blockchain, there's this idea that the blockchain okay, everything is trustless, it's on chain and that's all that matters, but there still has to be a claim of ownership right, a more formal claim, not necessarily a referenceable Registration or upload, but there needs to be a way for creatives to acknowledge that I did this. For this reason, this is, this is the basis for me doing it.

Speaker 3: 32:35

Like case in point, when you file a trademark, it's not just you send, you know, if you're here in the US, the entity that you go through to file a trademark is the United States Patent and trademark office, right, uspto. And when you file a trademark, it's not as simple as you just, you know, starting to count, you just submit and say, hey, I want a trademark, this, and you pay and that's the end of it. No, no, no, it's a prop. You know, it's a process like. A lot of people don't know that Trademarks are generally not issued in any time frame shorter than six months, right, and they don't recognize, or they don't know, that when you trademark something, you have to attach a class to it, right, and each class has a price associated with it. So if I have a name I want to trademark, I have to go here and I have to pay for each and every class that I want Protection in. So if I create, we're just gonna say Chris's, chris's domains, right. If I want to trademark that, if I want to go ahead and put it as it stands right now, with the USPTO's fees, there's like they're like three, three hundred and seventy five dollars per class. So if I want Chris's domains to be covered as a trademark in perfumes, then I have to pay three hundred and seventy five dollars for that class. But if I wanted to also be covered in digital Artifacts and things that are nature, that's another three hundred and seventy five dollars for that class. The reason I'm stating this is that the more classes that you're covered in, that means the more that you have to pay.

Speaker 3: 34:08

But it doesn't stop there. There's a trademark examiner, right? These are lawyers, these are people who understand United States law, patent and trademark law, international law, and these individuals are responsible for combing through every single patent and trademark application that's submitted and Ensuring that the person who or the company that's filing this trademark Actually is using it in commerce, because that's one of the prerequisites, right? And then, on top of that, they have to go ahead and make the informed decision to Grant you the trademark. But it doesn't stop there, because your, your trademark, has to be they. They call it a publish for opposition and it's like this window where individuals can object To you getting this trademark. So you have to get through that process before you ever get a certificate saying that you hold this trademark. So, after all of that long-windedness, it it's a process that Is, it has value and it's not one that should be undermined.

Speaker 3: 35:17

So why? What does that have to do with web3? So you have a lot of people that are in web3 and they're creating, right, we haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg yet. It hasn't even gotten anywhere close, right. But what we're doing is that we're seeing people create videos, we're seeing people create articles, people are dabbling in different things, but what they're not recognizing is that every time that they put out a video, every time that they put out a post, if they're not taking extra steps to lay claim to their work, it in essence becomes the property of the platform that they're distributing it through. Right?

Speaker 3: 35:53

Most of the folks who are putting out Content, they don't read the terms and conditions of X. They don't read the upload conditions of YouTube or any of these other platforms. They just upload, right. But if you take the time to read through some of those, you'll recognize that they put a cap on what you can do with the content that you release through their platforms, right, and if web3 is supposed to be an opportunity to Make the digital realm more equitable and allow you to be able to lay claim to your artwork without interference or your creativity or your intellectual property, then you have a responsibility to be well versed on how protecting your, your IP, worked before now and how it's gonna work in the future.

Speaker 3: 36:37

You just can't Criticize anything that's quote-unquote, centralized or is tied in with the government, because many of those things that you're denouncing are things that could benefit you in one way or another. So, you know, if, if I had to say just from myself, because I'm pretty sure you know my colleagues, you know here that are listening they have a more technical approach to it. Right, I'm looking at it from the standpoint of practicality and just every day, being in the trenches with individuals like yourself that do the thankless job of Informing folks that that don't take the clickbait route that's like listen, you need to read this, because this plays a role in where you're gonna be in the future, where your children, where your family are gonna be, and it's a thankless job, right. But if we do our part to let folks know that you need to go ahead and you need to protect everything, every single thought that comes Fourth, right from the mind and the heart, and you need to do so not just to say that it's mine, but so that you can have more leverage down the road In the digital space and not in the digital space.

Speaker 3: 37:43

I think what will happen is that we'll have a More informed generation of creatives. I think they will have a healthier web 3 space. I think the content will be better. Like I don't know if you've, I mean if, if you go to YouTube and and then Twitter and I mean on X and other platforms where people just kind of like freely create, you can see that the quality of content is not as Robust as it once was. You get what I'm saying. I think a lot of that is because people are more focused on creating an output rather than protecting and quality.

Speaker 2: 38:17

Yeah, um, for those of you also who are listening and who are wondering, besides all of that, the the obvious of why you need to protect your property. I'm a slide in a quick plug here as well. Another reason and I just learned this, yesterday, I think, or the day before yesterday we're Dabbling or looking into entering the right of the dot option that also, copyrights have a resale value as well. So there is definitely a value, not only in the content that you're creating now, but also owning the copyrights and owning trademarks and the right to resell that content is. You know, we're definitely coming into a space where AI is using information from everywhere in order to Sell things and create value and models to other people. You know that that's going to be monetized, and the blockchain, you know it, aids in that. You know, especially if that's where the content is being placed as well, and then it's having to go through. You know our usual mechanisms for monetization here. So all of these things again, this is this is the web three that we're entering. This is what this is essentially. What we're calling web three is your creator economy. It's what helps empower us our information, our content but again, like I said, on the legal side. You've got to do your part in order to have the right, you know, perpetually in order to do that, or I don't potentially, but Uncontestably in order to be able to do that.

Speaker 2: 39:45

And yeah, so, for those of you entering the space, once again, I invite anyone who wants to come up, who has any questions. We are deep diving with Chris from Namertips. Again, it's been a pleasure learning so much about the platform so far. Wanted to talk about one of the things that we shared up at the top, which was, you know, kind of a stealth launch. I hope everybody has gone up to everything that's been posted up at the top, as, again, please read the articles. Wealth of knowledge within those. But also you shared a soundtrack for a motion picture. Like I said, you guys really have a very creative and in-depth approach for reaching out to real people and I'm so glad to share this. Tell us about this, like this is, you know, kind of a surprise for me as well. Tell us about the soundtrack where they can listen to it. What comes after it? All that good stuff.

Speaker 3: 40:40

Yeah, so we do a lot of stealth building over here. It's one of those things where you know every blue moon will pop up and say, hey, you know, this is something that you know we're doing in real life. But, yeah, the deeper the names soundtrack my goodness, that has been a long time coming. It's actually the soundtrack to a motion picture that will be releasing. That is the first ever motion picture about Domains and digital identity, right? Nobody has done it before and we are on the cutting edge of that. The same thing with the soundtrack was beautiful about the soundtrack to is that we licensed the rhythmic speaking genre from the trademark holder, right? So when you listen to deeper the names, the soundtrack, which is, you know, accessible on all major streaming platforms so, like you know, your Apple music, your Spotify and so on when you listen to it, there's a, there's a particular delivery of the message, right, that coincides with the rhythmic speaking Foundation that the individuals that we license the trademark from. They put those parameters in place. So when you listen to it, it has that Music vibe to it, but it also has that speaking vibe to it and the reason that we opted to go this route and We'll be releasing the motion pictures.

Speaker 3: 42:02

So is because one thing that we talk about a lot in the office it's meeting people where they are right. There's a comment saying that says you know, you should shoot for where the target will be and not where it's at. There are a lot of people who focus on the echo chamber of web 3, so they're kind of like talking to each other, and so on this end you have a handful of us that are like, yeah, about the onboarding, the masses, how do you reach these individuals? And one of the Best ways to meet people is through entertainment. So one thing that we lead with with namer tips is education, entertainment and empowerment. So if you educate through the entertainment and you provide opportunities to be empowered, you can just about be certain that you're offering value. And so with the motion picture and the soundtrack who doesn't like a good movie, who doesn't like a good soundtrack? Right, but what we're hoping that the goal that we have with this is when we roll it out, because we did like a soft release for individuals. And web 3, you know, we knew everybody in web 3 wasn't gonna gravitate to it, not because the value isn't there, but because you know more individuals than not. They have a particular goal in this space, right, but there are a handful of individuals, many of which that are in this space right now, that see beyond. Just you know what they have in their bags and how much money they're gonna make, and so we felt that it was only fair to share, you know, share the release with those individuals.

Speaker 3: 43:31

But we'll be doing a more formal rollout in real life billboards and all, and putting this movie out now. It's not gonna be feature fume and all of your big movie theaters, at least not at first. But we have a ticket system that we're putting together, that we're gonna to. We're going to issue the tickets for individuals to get a Premier screening of the actual movie, but where are they going to view it at? They're going to view it in Nameritips's virtual library, like. You heard me talking about this Leading up to now, like, why doesn't Nameritips have a website?

Speaker 3: 44:08

That's because that's what we've been working on behind the scenes the virtual library. So we're taking, we've compiled a lot of the creative works From the artists, that we've worked with a lot of the speakers and the writers and we've created a virtual library, right, that people can go ahead and experience. Because in real life, if you live in the US, you know that the library is one of those institutions that has been around forever. Right, it serves as a place of refuge for those who need information, those who might not have the most money, and we just felt that something like that was necessary in web three. So what better way to draw attention to the library, open it up, than to do the screening in a virtual place, right, that that we own and You're able to watch the movie?

Speaker 3: 44:54

And then you're able to say, wow, now I get. I get a visual of what Domaining and digital identity means, and I think there is. It's gonna be an interesting. It's gonna be an interesting rollout, and I think a lot of people are gonna view domains and digital identity through a different lens. I'm really excited. You could probably tell it, I'm smiling right now, but it's gonna be a really, really big one.

Speaker 3: 45:16

So we'll be releasing the movie in the first quarter of 2024, so we're gonna do a formal Rollout of the actual soundtrack and, fun fact, there's a blockchain edition that's coming right, and then we have the gray area edition.

Speaker 3: 45:32

So some of you all might be thinking, wow, so it's gonna be three versions, exactly the version that's out now is out through your centralized platforms. Again, it's about meeting people where they are. Most people are listening to music, watching videos through major platforms like you know your Apple, youtube and then, with the gray area edition, that's gonna task the listener and the supporter to not only have their Foot in the centralized realm, but they're going to have to go ahead and put their foot in the blockchain realm in order to get some of the added benefits and perks of being a supporter. And then the last version, which is a blockchain edition, is going to be the fully decentralized blockchain project and movie, and and you'll see how we've Migrated individuals from the centralized space to the, to the decentralized space, rather than just expecting them to get it because, you know, we brought it up and said, hey, you should, you should go blockchain. Right, they like what is blockchain. I don't even understand what I'm dealing with now.

Speaker 2: 46:32

Yeah, I'm actually smiling over here too as you're speaking. I'm kind of my mind is racing as well. You and I, we think a lot of like it as far as what we think it'll take for the space to really understand this, and I think a lot of people, especially on first hearing this especially also with the way that we're used to conducting business are probably like initially taking these kind of initiatives for granted, and I really envision one day that people will be extremely thankful that certain people thought outside the box here because again, like you said, it's about breaking out of this bubble requires communicating with people on the level that they're used to.

Speaker 2: 47:14

There are quite a few very proven strategies that work right, that are meant to capture people's attention, that are ways that, can you know, to transfer information to people in ways that they can understand, and we have to start engaging in those things, even though some of those things may be, quote unquote, anti-whip three, as you said. You know. I'm glad that you're releasing this in those different editions so that people who are interacting with it, on whichever level that they're comfortable or graduating into, have that option, but it's not pushing out anybody who wants to access it, and that's the thing. Like, we really do need to start making more content and creating more initiatives that that aren't just tech based, that again are entertainment based, that subliminally get people to understand the value of ownership, of names of the space that we're growing into. Go for it.

Speaker 3: 48:07

No, you know it's. I love that you said that and I love that you know you referenced that. It's not, it's not the most appreciated right, but when you're when you talk about being a service, unfortunately, through around the world there are a lot of people who do the tough jobs and they don't get, you know, they don't get shown gratitude, but they understand that it needs to be done For us. We're a privileged group where we don't have to bury our heads under the sandbags of hoping that you know the names that we have sale and so on and so forth, like that's for us. It's literally doing it for the love and doing it for the people, because we realize that if you don't have that, Then what, what? What foundation is web three going to really be built? The top right, like it? That's not sustainable for everything to just be money driven and tech driven. No, things have to have appeal, they have to resonate, they have to connect with people at the heart, right, if, if, if that doesn't happen, I'll go as far as saying that we would have failed. Web three would have been a failure when you look at web to.

Speaker 3: 49:20

Web to has laid the foundation for what web three is poised to become, but it was an extra emphasis on companies and corporations, right? That's why, you know, on the web to side, there's such this, there's this unwavering commitment to ensuring that dot com, which is short for commercial, for those who don't know that, that dot com remains king. We live in the world where every single person that's in this space and that's on the X platform make the X platform valuable, right, google wouldn't be valuable if it wasn't for all of the people who go and search things. Youtube wouldn't be valuable if it wasn't for all of the people who create and watch the content. Right, many of these larger companies understand that the people are valuable, but not as many as we would like view them as anything more than a number, right? Right? So I think that what we're doing here because we're not, we're not looking to be the most popular, right, we're not looking to have the biggest bags and fun fact, you know, we have, quite like you know, so we have the more tips wallet, right, that anybody can access and that's pretty much. We use that particular wallet to show individuals, kind of where we're headed with this, right.

Speaker 3: 50:51

So when we acquire a name, generally it's a narrative sculpting name or it's a name that's letting you know where we're headed, so you'll see us. You know, register things like innovative, dot this and innovator like we. We were just having a discussion not too long ago about an annual awards program, right, like we grabbed a particular set of names from UD and we were considering launching an annual award situation where we award people for their innovative efforts in the space. Right, and you do that by not only providing them with the name that acknowledges that they've won that award for that particular season, but we also provide them with extra incentives be a financial, otherwise.

Speaker 3: 51:36

Because I don't know if you know, if you know that when we came into this space, you, like I told you we do a lot of the popularity is not our thing, right, but we do a lot of things stealth based, right, and I'm only mentioning it because I know individuals have heard me speak in a lot of these spaces but they haven't necessarily been able to trace a lot of the things that name or tips has done.

Speaker 3: 52:03

And you know, if you go ask some of the people in these communities that we're all tied into, they'll validate exactly what it is that I'm saying. You know, with handshake, you know we've sponsored handshakes, presence at names con 22. Right, we've went on ahead and we've gifted gift cars, ud gift cars to, or gift codes to, a lot of individuals in the UD community. We just recently, you know, we we collaborated on giving away or doing the giveaway for the two GPT names. So you know, giving is not something that's foreign but we do it not from a place of being recognized but to reward individuals and help kind of steer that culture right. Again, I get it. You know we're not doing the whole DGN thing and saying you know decentralization forever, like we understand the value of it and we understand where people are coming from, but we're really looking at this from the standpoint of come on, let's let's ensure that the human element stays here, right.

Speaker 2: 53:08

It will wear off. I mean, and this is not a bad thing, I think the economy will always be there, but I do think, like the crypto bro and the DGN thing, will eventually wear off and it will be replaced with people who are coming into the space for the right reason. And, again, extremely appreciative to the builders who are building, you know, this time capsule of constant that they'll, you know, inevitably run face first into, and we were. We're all building that, that initial base of education, that library, and I love that you guys are creating that virtual space, but we're all creating that library of what will on board and give value to the rest of the space.

Speaker 2: 53:47

And I love something that you referenced as well. You know you're touching the people and again you're coming from the heart and kind of referencing the heart and I want everybody's attention back up to the top and I wanted to ask you to kind of dive into the inspiration behind. You know this, the series that you know that we're gracious to be able to host on on our website at heart domains calm and extremely grateful for you for pending. Tell us a little bit more about the heartbeat article series and also, you know what people should expect or what people should go into reading, and I think that you know that you're trying to get people to know what they should be reading it for, to get out of what kind of understanding of naming you're trying to guide people towards.

Speaker 3: 54:31

Well, yeah, so the heartbeat series, you know, is the collaborative effort that you, we are very proud of and I, just while we're on the record, I just want to go ahead and emphasize the level of gratitude that we have for you and your platform and I heart beat series. And I want to emphasize the level of gratitude that we have for you and your platform because we can't undermine when, when the educators come together right with the right intent. So the heartbeat series is about educating domainers and empowering people, but, in essence, bridging the domainers and the people that the articles, in particular One is an ode to naming right and digital identity, and that particular article is actually one of my favorites because it acknowledges how relevant a name is to each and every one of us in this room when we came out of the womb.

Speaker 3: 55:56

We were named right and from that point on, after we got that name, it was us, up to us to go here and add whatever value we were going to add to it or detract from it. And the same thing is going to happen in Web 3. You know, it's almost like a rebirth of sorts, Like when you come into Web 3, you get your name and then from there the landscape is yours to just really chart and make the most of. Another article that's in the series has to do with Domainer bots. There's a lot of people in this Web 3 space and I mean they get on top of those mechanical horses and they ride into the sunset under the impression that they are going to be the champions of it all, and you don't really hear them reference what role AI technology and just technology in that in any sense is going to play in their ability to be able to be an effective and profitable Domainer. So that article about Domainer bots is one that I would definitely encourage you know Domainers and aspiring Domainers to read, because it'll help shape that idea of what does my strategy need to be and how do I need to go about factoring in technology.

Speaker 3: 57:09

Another article. We think about it from two standpoints generally and when I say we because we're in this together the image that we project to the world is, in essence, the image that we all share to one extent or another. So when you're in this web three space and you're talking about domaining, you automatically hear bag pumpers or bag holders, but there's not a lot of focus on the domainers who are in this space and they're domaining for their existing families and their families to be. There's not nearly enough talk of the father who has accumulated a lot of domains because he wants to leave them to his daughter, or the mother who's accumulating domains because she's really trying to find a way to pay for her child's surgery down the road. We don't look at it that way.

Speaker 3: 58:13

So that particular article is near and dear, because it does allude to the fact that this is in fact deeper than names.

Speaker 3: 58:21

It's deeper than just registering names, holding them and expecting them to sail. It's like what exists before and what exists after. And then the last article is actually one that I think is it's ideal in the sense that it pulls everything together, and I think that that's what makes this series so important, because it's not just a collage of articles. They all go hand in hand and I think that, for those who read the articles, I think what they're going to walk away with is, at bare minimum, the understanding that, hey, it's more that's happening here than just the name. Just acquiring the name is more to it, and I will hope that from the Heartbeat series because, think about it, it's called the Heartbeat series, so that's alluding to the human element and I just hope that everyone who walks away from it and I think I speak for everyone in the room here that when you walk away from reading those articles, hopefully you will go into your domaining and your Web 3 endeavor with humanity in mind and not just the technology and what you can get monetarily out of things.

Speaker 2: 59:36

Yeah, I really truly did enjoy reading this series and for a lot of reasons that I've shared, not only publicly but with you as well.

Speaker 2: 59:48

The real side, like I said, the real reason that the other 8 billion people will enter the space, which will have nothing to do with profiting and this is that side to truly get an understanding on. And I think a lot of people kind of cross that bridge on what domains and naming can really do for them once they get their own and start to put it into use or, like you said, once they start to look at it as something to pass down to another generation, Because then you start thinking of it as not for the value you can sell now, but you really put your mindset in the spot where you're thinking of 10 or 15 years from now. How will my daughter or my son use this? I think I've said oftentimes my grill domain is actually my daughter's name. Is a name hack on the DNS side that I'm going to important to ENS, or on bridge, using whatever is the best technology for mirroring your bridging? At some point, I think that may be to be seen. I love ENS, though.

Speaker 3: 1:00:50

But think about this. You just said something. You said your grill domain is a domain hack of your daughter's name. Anyone who knows a domain hack is one of a kind. If you could get your hand on one of those and you can be synchronized to the left and right of the dot, oh, you have. You clearly have a jewel on your hands, but when you pass that down to her, imagine what she's going to be able to do. Imagine what she's going to feel when naming is a big thing when it's just obvious that you need to have a name and the names are in use. And imagine when people are complimenting her on how much of a perfect fit the name that she has is and she can attribute the fact that she has that name to not only the person that brought her into the world and named her not once but, in essence, twice.

Speaker 3: 1:01:55

Listen, when we work with the younger people it's something about working with young people you get a more genuine level of feedback than you get from most adults. The young people they get it. I told you that we ran a poll or domains that really stood out and it was a list of domains, and this exercise involved young people choosing which domains resonated with them, and on the list there were dot com domains, there were modicon domains and there were extensions like WTF. So anyone who knows what WTF is in the acronym world there's no need for me to go over it. You know what that means. However, the reason I mentioned in that is the young people gravitated to the emoticons. They gravitated to the WTF. It was at that moment seeing those results. There was nothing a dot com maximalist investor could tell me with regard to where the future of all of this is going Like.

Speaker 3: 1:03:04

Young people want what resonates with them. They're not. They could care less and I'm not saying this is a positive thing all the time, but they could care less about the history of it and whether this extension is used by a multitude of corporate. They could care less about that. They care about what represents them, and that is the epitome of digital identity.

Speaker 3: 1:03:29

Your name represents you and for you to get your daughter's name, like you went and you looked for that right, you locked that name up, and when you see your daughter every single morning, she may or may not even recognize how wonderful of a gift you have in weight for her, and that's just. It's beautiful. So I think I want to commend you and I want to commend everyone who has introduced their young people to domaining, because I think that it's a shame that you have so many young people and they're utilizing these apps. They're giving all this content to like TikTok and YouTube and they're not being taught how to protect it or to truly identify themselves. So pardon me for kind of going off on that tangent, but when people talk about sewing into young people, especially in this digital age, I just get excited. Some of my partners are looking at me right now. They're not because they're like yeah, this is his thing, this is like it's enrollment.

Speaker 2: 1:04:32

Well, I think it's obviously everybody. Well, I mean, everybody has an opportunity to get their own version of a grail and everybody will have their own definition. But I think it is important, moving forward, that people do put themselves in the kind of mindset that you need to put yourself into when you acquire that type of name. Because, like I said, when I acquired that name for my daughter, it certainly wasn't to capitalize on selling it to another person. So that was the furthest thing for my mind and I knew that at some point, when she understands it and it becomes in her possession, that it's probably something that she wouldn't sell. So, looking at the blockchain, looking at the name, looking at its utility in its future, completely separated from the prospect of selling it, it really puts you in a different mindset and takes you down different rabbit holes of what these things can actually do and gives you, I think, a different appreciation for them. And again, everything makes up the market.

Speaker 2: 1:05:30

This is definitely not to shame those who sell names, because we need that to happen. That's one form of adoption. You've got to sell it to get people in here, but we also have to show people again that this is deeper than just the names, as you said. See, that's good. Right, we have to show people that it's deeper than the names in order to get them to want to buy the name from you, at least to get people from outside the bubble that we're interacting with right now to come into the space, because it is deeper than that. Like we are not only onboarding people right now who are building with us and are pioneers of the space, but we're essentially onboarding that next generation of pioneers, who doesn't even know what this is yet, by grabbing these type of names and putting them in our wallet with the intent of passing them down to our children.

Speaker 2: 1:06:19

So yeah like I said, that's my personal grill and, yeah, we are about an hour and usually we like to keep these spaces around this. I really hope everybody has enjoyed everything that we've spoke on this far A lot of great content that you guys have put out in the past week. For those of you who have missed that, you did reference one of the giveaways that you did, also in collaboration with us, which was two of the GPTcom domains that you guys gave away some six-letter GPTs. It was a SMH and LMK, so I wanted to congratulate the winners on those.

Speaker 2: 1:06:57

But, yeah, I really look forward to everything that you guys are planning to bring to the space. You've already done so much, as you've mentioned before. I kind of want to get, too, closing out by telling us what can we expect now in the future? You've kind of inched up to this point. Now we've launched the Deeper the Names soundtrack, we've got the film coming out. What can we start seeing from Namertips? Are we going to start seeing the website? Are we going to get? What are we looking forward to?

Speaker 3: 1:07:31

So we're going to go ahead and be launching the virtual library and we're taking the bold approach of making that our domain, our virtual place. So you can expect that, you can expect the premiere of the movie and then you can expect to start seeing us incorporate more of the creatives that you know we have the privilege of working with via the creative consulting agency, because there are some very wonderful individuals that have some great things that they've they've created for the world. So we just want the library to be a resource. You can expect the name or tips is definitely going to be an advocacy brand, as as as that's the aim right for us to go ahead and remain an advocacy brand.

Speaker 3: 1:08:15

That's why you don't see too many faces, right, when you, when you look at big brands, you generally don't see the face. You generally get a spokesperson, and in this case, the spokesperson is to be a great person. It's Chris. That's who everybody sees. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to make it my, my duty to remain committed to being an ambassador for the name or tips brand. Even if I'm not the face and the voice moving forward, I'm going to always be present. So you can definitely expect, just to get that, that angle that you you're not going to get from too many other places and you know, between that and collaborations you can just see us bringing you know, hold some value to the web three space that will hopefully make it more inclusive, not just for people from all walks of life but for the families that you know we're building and we're raising up to keep this going.

Speaker 2: 1:09:11

I did want to ask one more question to, because I know a couple of people that are in this space, and I'm sure a few who will listen back to the space, will actually be out in Vegas at the main or Expo, and you guys will be out there, which is amazing. So let us know, like the, what you will hope to get out of attending the Expo and also you know why people should look to connect and find you guys.

Speaker 3: 1:09:36

Yeah, so the the the objective at the Expo is is really two things one, to just come to visit this Expo and to ensure that the mistake that was made in leaving the people out when Web two had its big take off moment doesn't happen in Web three.

Speaker 3: 1:09:54

So I'll be showing up with a couple of my colleagues, but I have the privilege of speaking on the panel and I intend to, you know, just touch a little bit on, listen, you know, invest in this space, make your money thrive, grow your situation, but don't discount the power of education and don't discount your responsibility to educate others, because you know, that's that's something that I feel like there needs to be someone. That's a, that's a representation of that concept. And then just let folks know that you know there are folks in this space that are going to be up for holding you accountable for doing that right. And then, last but not least, just connecting with, with good folks, putting faces, with names and you know voices, and just letting everyone know that you know name tips. Is not this this mythical situation where you only hear this voice and see these tweets but you're actually you're like, oh wow, these are some really good people and just you know there's.

Speaker 3: 1:10:53

There's nothing better than connecting with people and them, them recognizing that the energy is genuine, and I think that for those who attend the conference, once we connect, they'll say, oh, I get it now, like they. They're really about this, education and family things. So, yeah, let's make sure that we, we were supportive of one another. So that's what. That's what the goal is. I'm looking forward to seeing you out there, seeing your team bring some of my colleagues with me so that everybody can connect and build and see some of the familiar faces that show up to these spaces all of the time and share their time and energy is going to be a great one. Is we only have? So what? What is it? Less than eight days, that's?

Speaker 2: 1:11:36

that's me. For me is just a week, so I'll actually be getting out there on Tuesday so yeah, for for anybody who will be out there the day earlier.

Speaker 2: 1:11:46

You can, you can definitely reach out, we can connect, and I certainly look forward not only to connecting and locking in the bottom that we built over, you know, twitter and the phone and everything else virtually, I guess you would say, but there, you know, as we said over and over again, and then the countless spaces we've had about the expo.

Speaker 2: 1:12:08

There's something different about networking in person, being able to, to connect and build bridges that are really impossible to do unless you're in front of each other and able to to connect, you know, not only with energy, but, you know, sometimes you need a fun environment to connect them as well, and I definitely think that this will be a good mix of education, learning and fun. I'm super particularly interested in attending that workshop with Bruce. I think that's probably yeah, as a highlight for me, because I think that there's going to be a lot of value and sorry for those missing out again, and you know, I think that it's just going to provide another opportunity for people to attend virtually there's a lot of value to learn and being able to outbound.

Speaker 2: 1:12:49

There's a lot of value to learn and every single one of the panels and glad that you guys will be on one will be on one as well, actually talking about the potential future digital identity.

Speaker 2: 1:13:00

So, so, really looking forward to that again, we're going to be on the eight days away from the conference, seven days to will be out there, super glad and honored to be able to do this and a prior to introduce. You guys, you know, and do our part to spread the love for everybody who's attending. Please make sure that you either sign up for the meeting, find neighborhoods, you know, let's connect, let's continue to build. If you guys haven't taken it in at all, at the end of the space, neighborhoods is definitely one of those platforms that is here doing the hard work to bring the people that will bring this. That that I never believe you are going to be. You know the colors of the space. So, yeah, tell us before we leave, for those who are interested in getting in contact with your building, with you prior to the conference or even afterwards, or those who are interested in becoming a part of your community, how can they do so?

Speaker 3: 1:13:55

Well, it's as simple as following on X. You know, if the style of content that we provide is you know what you, what you desire, then definitely give us a follow. If you want to go ahead and you want to reach out to connect your perspective, you can always dm. If email is your thing, you can email us at info at namer dot tips, right? So, yeah, doors always open. And you know, I want to thank you.

Speaker 3: 1:14:20

I want to thank you for being so consistent with these spaces and just being open to have these types of conversations, because if it wasn't for individuals like yourself, it's space with it will be very stale. Right, and the world is going through a lot right now and I think that we need to have more discussions that are humanity based, and I know for some they might feel like that's not appealing and it's not exciting, but it's necessary. Right, because we all have a beating heart and we all have our trials and tribulations and we're blessed to be able to think outside the bounds of our circumstances and entertain the future, right, and technology. This is such a privilege and it's been a privilege to partake in this space. So I thank you and I thank everyone who has tuned in and I just I look forward to, look forward to Vegas, I look forward to connecting with you guys. I hope you all have a wonderful week. I genuinely mean that that's not an empty pleasantry like when.

Speaker 3: 1:15:20

I say I hope you have a great week. If it's that serious to you, just just DM me and just say, hey, I had a great week or it wasn't so great, and I'll talk you through it.

Speaker 2: 1:15:30

Yes, sir, yes sir, definitely a pleasure as well. I think, as I've said again, you know when it'll all make sense, when we start really thinking about this in the perspective of what our kids are going to do with this, and I'm glad that you're at the forefront of highlighting and I want to look forward to the content for people to start thinking along those lines. And yeah, for those of you who attended the space, I thank you guys as well. For those of you who weren't able to attend the space, if you're hearing this part now, there's one way you can do so. Also, we will be uploading this on our podcast so you'll be able to hear that Wherever, for pretty much every major podcast player, I think, except for Google right now, and I actually got a check that might be working as well, but it's everywhere. So I encourage you guys to listen back to the space to share it out. A lot of alpha that's being shared here. Again, this is that different kind of alpha. This is that alpha that makes this all makes sense, because we all don't want to just be on here selling worthless names to each other. They really do mean something. These do have very deep meaning. This is deeper than names.

Speaker 2: 1:16:37

I'd like to thank you guys once again. Yeah, yeah, that's so good, right? I do want to thank you guys once again for attending this I heart to maintenance tech talk a may. It was a pleasure to have name or tips on. And, yeah, enjoy the rest of the week. We are doing another back to back a made tomorrow with the DNS and then I think I'm going to do a space on Monday Just right before heading out to the expo to let you guys know what we're going to be doing out there, because I'm not just going to sit in there at a table, I'm actually going to be filming something. So, yeah, look forward to that again, hope everybody has a blessed week. Thank you very much, chris, say thank you to the rest of the team for how awesome everybody has been kind of behind the scenes and look forward to meeting everybody again.

Speaker 3: 1:17:21

Definitely, and we'll see you out in Vegas. You all take care, yes, sir.