Emojis and Name Hacks: Unlocking the Potential for .WS & WebUnited

After experiencing a personal health scare with diverticulitis, I'm back and more eager than ever to explore the fascinating world of Web3 and digital identity. Join us in this episode of Tech Talk as we sit down with the incredible Page Howe to uncover the latest developments reshaping our online personas. Together, we navigate the balance between health, wellness, and tech-driven lives, while offering insights from my own recent journey of abstaining from cannabis for a fresh perspective.

We're thrilled to present an exciting partnership between Freename and Domain Cost Club, which introduces the .WS domain into the Web3 space. Explore how this innovative collaboration is enhancing the Web3 landscape with at-cost domain registration and flexible domain management. Discover the unique features of the .WS top-level domain, its historical context, and how these advancements are paving the way for seamless integration of digital identities across decentralized platforms.

Looking ahead, we dive into the transformative potential of unified digital identities within the Web3 world. Learn about the cutting-edge possibilities of domain name tokenization and the creative use of name hacks and emojis. With insights from Crypto Reporter, we highlight the growing significance of Web3 domains and the vast opportunities they present. Join us in this thrilling conversation as we unravel the future of digital identity, domain registration, and explore the limitless potential of the Web3 era.

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Chapters

• 2:00 Tech Talk With Page Howe
• 6:53 Domain Name System Explained
• 19:31 Benefits of Domain Cost Club
• 27:50 WebUnited
• 37:29 Future of Web3 Digital Identity
• 45:34 Future of Domain Name Tokenization
• 59:42 Name Hacks and Emojis in Web3

Transcript

Speaker 2: 2:00

Thank you. Thank you, hello. Hello everybody. We'll get started here in just a second Posting, or I'm pinning some things at the top, pretty much what we're going to be discussing today up at the top, so feel free to review that. But yeah, as you guys are coming into the space, please like, retweet, leave a comment. If you do want to come up on stage and join the conversation, feel free to do so. We do have a special guest today, which is going to be Mr Page Howe, so he should be here any minute. But, yeah, we'll get started. Has just joined us, so waiting for him to connect and come on stage. Oh yeah, see you connected. How are you doing today, sir?

Speaker 3: 3:14

Yes, sir yes, sir, you've worked the first time. Charm man, I don't know. Web3 sure works. I'm still trying to figure out bluetooth. So I'm glad I understand web3 more than I do blue bluetooth.

Speaker 2: 3:25

So I'm glad I understand Web 3 more than I do. Bluetooth, yes, sir. Yeah, sometimes these connection issues, and especially Twitter, throw us for a little bit of a loop. I am actually going to go ahead and get us started. Like I said, I usually do like to keep these within a certain time frame so that people who listen to this after the fact are able to digest it and it's not too intimidating when they see a big number. So, with that being said, I do want to welcome everybody so far to our Tech Talk podcast. This is a live discussion that I record here on X, where we highlight news, innovations, education alpha and business development in the Web3 technology and digital identity space. If you don't already know, I am your host, winn Airdrop, the founder of iHeart Domains, and we are your number one resource for unbiased Web3 and blockchain domain educational content, with over 100 Tech Talk episodes and YouTube videos produced and archived over the past two years.

Speaker 2: 4:19

If you want to search our archive of previous spaces. You can do so and you can see a blog overview of each one at our website, at iHeartDebatescom. Everything is pretty organized there.

Speaker 2: 4:32

Also for prior recordings. If you do want to listen to it in a podcast format, they are available on every major podcast player, including Apple, spotify, iHeartRadio, all that good stuff, and you can get to that directly really easily at techtalkhost. And yeah, as everybody's coming in, again, people will trickle in and out. We do this live here, but as you're coming in, we'd love everybody to like and retweet the space. And again, if you've got something you want to add to the conversation, feel free to put it in the comments or to jump up. Feel free to put it in the comments or to jump up. I typically open the tech talk with some opening news and some highlights from the space. Over the past week, I kind of wanted to take the time to address something that I mean I guess everybody knows about at this point concerning me personally, and so I figured it'd be appropriate to open the opening news that way, by first and foremost, saying thank you, you know, to everybody, not only in this community but you know virtually, I think, every community I've belonged to in my life for reaching out and checking on me and my recent health scare. You know not to get too deep into it, but if you follow my personal page, I did post a video and so this is also an explanation for why we missed last week's tech talk. But yeah, for those of you who follow my personal page, I contracted something called, or have something called diverticulitis Leads to my bloodstream causes sepsis and leukocytosis, which is basically super high white blood cell count, and disease of the blood or infection of your body and all that good stuff. And, yeah, it put me in the ER for a little bit and very grateful to have come. You know, on the other side of that, again, there's a pretty big path. You know that I still have to follow no-transcript that and, you know, take care of your health. Again, it was very surprising Got love from both sides of my life. It's an interesting dynamic, right? Because, really enough, like 99.9% of the people that I know in real life have no clue what a WinAirdrop is and don't follow my Twitter at all, and then and so none of them know this side of me, right and then everyone here on this side of the fence knows me of course is WinAirdrop and kind of crypto, and nobody knows kind of the other side of me that everyone else in IRL knows. So it's weird to see that dynamic play out and kind of those two worlds come together. You know, for bad reason at first, but hopefully some good will come out of it. One of the things that has come out of it and this is another thing too so this will actually be full transparency. Most people know that.

Speaker 2: 7:43

You know I was a connoisseur, I guess, of cannabis and definitely, you know, an advocate for a lot of the benefits that it does for people, both, you know, mentally and physically. As far as pain, one of the side effects of being in the hospital from that time is that, you know, I was forced to abstain from it for at least those four days and I've decided to continue that, you know, for for as long as I feel like right, I just want to kind of AB test. So you guys are actually seeing a version of me as well that you have never seen. I don't think I've ever done a tech talk without consuming cannabis prior. So, yeah, hopefully you guys enjoy this content. And then, of course, the path forward again, a little bit of a path forward ahead, but it shouldn't take me out of the rotation, so very glad to be here with you guys. Again, thank you from the bottom of my heart. You guys really mean a lot to me, and it makes me want to grind more With that being said, oh, go for it, sir.

Speaker 3: 8:41

Hey Wynn, thanks for sharing and I think your transparency you also offered up speaking about it. Maybe there's someone else out there. If they get challenged with the malady, you know don't want to ask the hard questions that they can take from your experience, either reaching out to you or I appreciated your comment. I had the same thing happen to me about three years ago with a pre-diabetes thing and, yeah, you got to watch your health and as much as we're super giga, chad, trendy LFG, let's go whatever. You got to watch out for your health. So thanks for sharing and I appreciate your thoughts and your words.

Speaker 2: 9:22

Absolutely, man. And, like I said, we. The thing I love about this Web3 community and now I feel like super comfortable calling it that, because that's truly what it feels is that we're all here to help each other and build each other and, for the most part, like most of the people that I connected with, have been genuinely good people. So, yeah, glad you guys were here for me, and if I could be here for anyone else, I'm more than happy to do so. And yeah, now let's dig into the main topic at hand Again, as you guys are coming into the space, much love. If you guys could like retweet. If you got any questions, please ask. But, yeah, emojis, name hacks and Web3 mirroring with the wstld, and that's actually so.

Speaker 2: 10:06

This space is actually about the biggest announcement of the week, which is pinned up at the top. We've got the best possible person to talk to us and help educate us on the WS or dot WS extension page on stage. But basically, for those of you if you didn't already know or hadn't seen the announcement, free name and it and its Web2 arm, which is WebUnited, kind of been a little shadows in the cup that they've been building Well, they actually just announced their partnership with Domain Cost Club and together they have now enabled the wscc TLD, which is Country Code TLD, to be mirrored into Web3. And then, once it's in Web3, it utilizes Freename's growing partnership in technology. So, essentially, you're able to turn DNS domain, in this case the ws, into a Freename domain.

Speaker 2: 10:54

Today I did want to briefly explore that partnership and what to expect from it, but I also wanted to discuss the wstlb in general, as it's been around basically since the beginning of the internet, but it also has a unique feature to already within the DNS ecosystem that many of you may not have been aware of. So, yeah, without further ado, the first thing I wanted to talk about is what even is WS? You want to lead us into that, sir? Sure, so dinosaurs roamed the earth?

Speaker 3: 11:22

Sure, so dinosaurs roamed the earth. And then the internet was invented and then the domain name system was set up. There we go. I just handled 3,000 years.

Speaker 3: 11:33

And when the domain name system was set up, a domain name and I've been using this lately a domain name allows people to talk to computers. Computers only understand numbers. People understand words. So if you wanted to say, go to my computer, the computer has no idea what those words mean. What a domain name does is it converts a natural language word or picture or image, as we're going to talk about today, into the numbers of a record locator, whether it be a website or a cryptocurrency address.

Speaker 3: 12:07

What that means is, when they came up with the internet, they came up with this decentralized way for people to send information through the excess space that existed on phone lines at the time called the internet, and they said, okay, well, when you're sending a piece of information, how do we know where it's going? It's going to something and that needs a domain name. Something, dot, something. So the right of the dot possibilities were 220 two-letter combinations that were given out to all the countries of the world u US got US, uk got UK and Western Samoa got WS, so you had all the countries with their local two-letter extensions and then you had ComNet, org and Edu and Gov and stuff like that, and those were the naming choices that existed for the late 80s and early 90s.

Speaker 3: 13:07

And WS was one of the first where a couple of guys from Carlsbad said you know what WS sounds really good for website or world site and we can go. And they did a deal with the government of Western Samoa that they could sell their domain names around the world as a substitute or an alternative for com, since all that stuff was taken and it could end in WS, which was pretty generic, it would work around the world. And that's how the WS was, you know, gained so much popularity. It's what's called a commercialized country code, tld, and now, 25 years later, we have things like TV and, most recently in the last five years, io and AI. So WS is in that same group that Google and all the search engines, as well as all the routers and the infrastructure of the internet and the email providers see as a global domain name, a generic domain name ending in the domain name somethingws. How's that? For kind of long, but not too long.

Speaker 2: 14:20

That was perfect and spot on and that was actually like one of the first big things that I was like, hmm, like you deep dive and you discover. So, just like you were saying, similar to like the way ai is being used, ws was pretty much I mean being used in XM. Like you said, the world site or website or web service was kind of the narrative that was attached to the WS once it was commercialized. And the other unique thing that you were saying is that apparently Google, just like it treats you know, kind of AI and IO and these other two named ccTLDs. They treat this in the same way, almost pretty much as a gTLD, like you said, a global TLD, so it's meant to be used and commercialized and kind of placed out there for general use yeah, and let's talk about that.

Speaker 3: 15:09

The reason a domain name is such a special asset even though it's like other things, like digital real estate, it is unlike anything else and that it has a functional use. Any piece of content on any domain name can be accessed by everybody in the world connected to the Internet. So, functionally, ws works the same as any other address, and then you have the brandability and the desirability. So the reason I actually bought my first WS domain name in 2002, I think I bought songws and wordws Because even then, the idea that you could get something so short and memorable, even though ws wasn't then and still isn't as popular as com okay, that's a given right, but still you're talking about typing in less numbers and letters. You're talking about remembering great keywords. You know what I mean. So, functionally, if I said, go to cryptows, boy, there's not a lot of mistake there, I don't have to spend another 10 seconds of my radio ad or my podcast saying now, crypto is spelled C-R-double-Y-triple-P-E-T and then a two and then an O. You know what I mean. It's cryptows. So that's the functional benefit you get with something like WS.

Speaker 3: 16:36

And it used to be that it was one of the alternatives to com and people were like, ooh, I don't know if I want to do that, ooh. But now that we have 1,000 alternatives there's shop and site and hockey and horse you know, the idea of having an alternative isn't as scary, I think, as it used to be. So I like WS, and have liked it for 25 years, because I can get short, easy-to high demand English words, names, and then it's what you do with the website. That'll determine now your search engine ranking. It's how well you build your website that'll determine how much money you make. And then the domain part of it. I just don't think. I think a shortws could be just as good as a long com with hyphens.

Speaker 2: 17:26

Absolutely, and I agree, and one of the things, you know, the beautiful thing about most Web3 investors, the kind of unique thing that we share, I guess, opposed to people who are maybe primarily Web2 investors is that we understand that there's opportunity. Right, it may not be the conventional opportunity that the space currently runs on, but there's opportunity in these, like you said, these alternative extensions, and you never know when they may gain that, the type of relevance or gain. You know, the what do you call it? The cultural push or whatever that happened to ai right or that previously before that happened with io. So, of course, there's no guarantee that this extension is ever going to blow out and you're going to make millions of dollars flipping these domains, but the opportunity cost right now is extremely low.

Speaker 2: 18:14

Again, this is an established ccTLD that's being treated as a gTLD and, again, there's a lot of cool things that you can do with this particular extension that we'll get into kind of at the end of the space.

Speaker 2: 18:26

But just as a hint, it's in the title name hacks and emojis, and if you're not already familiar with my love for emojis, I'm going to express that a little bit at the end, but I also so, in addition to kind of describing what WS is, I wanted to go through you know, the different players that are in this partnership so that people can understand who came together to make this happen before we kind of get into what this all means. So the next thing I wanted to go over is what is Domain Cost Club, because this might be something that people on this space might be new to discovering. Any of you who are currently registering Web2 domains, you might be using a registrar such as GoDaddy or Namecheap. You might be using Porkbun, which for some reason I'm addicted to, or any of the other ones out there, but there is another registrar out there called Domain Cost Club, and it in itself has some super unique features.

Speaker 3: 19:21

The first one is actually Go ahead, yeah, whenever you're ready, just let me know. Oh, yes, sir.

Speaker 2: 19:27

I was going to say that the first obvious hint is in its name. Domain Cost Club is an at-cost domain registrar. You basically pay a subscription an annual subscription and there's different tiers of those annual subscriptions, which enables you or, I guess, gives you a limit to how many domains you can register at a time, but you essentially pay the exact same price as Domain Cause Club is able to get directly from the registry. So obviously, I mean, depending on how many domains that you register each year and how much savings that equates to, you can do your research on what that value is as opposed to what the monthly fee is. But you're registering a lot of domains. This membership in and of itself could potentially save you a bunch of money and I'm going to let you go more into Domain Cost Club because I know you use it a lot, so go for it.

Speaker 3: 20:14

Yeah, I really do One. The team that runs WS also runs Domain Cost Club. They're capable, they're balanced, they've been around, they're much less high, low hype than get the job done consistently. Domain Cost Club is a really elegant system Click, click, bulk management, bulk editing and the Cost Club thing comes from. Costco is a very popular store we have here in the United States where you pay a membership fee and then the idea is you get everything for a lower price.

Speaker 3: 20:52

So in the domain name world, the registrars whether it be Namecheap, porkbun, godaddy or DomainCost Club they buy the domain names from registries. Verisignoperatescom, identity Digital operates a lot of them, godaddy operates a lot of them and they sell them to the registrar at a wholesale price. And they sell them to the registrar at a wholesale price. Then that registrar marks up the price plus gets the benefit of selling you lots of other stuff Website building, website forwarding, ssl and things like that. So the registrar determines how much to charge you. Now, in the early days, all domain names were $35 because you had to go through one registrar. They had a monopoly. They kept the prices high. Godaddy came in and grabbed 50% market share over 10 years by charging something as low as cost, but now that they're owned by private equity they've had to kind of creep back up because they need to make the money back to pay their investors.

Speaker 3: 21:52

So I think what you get at Domain Cost Club is you get costs, and it's not just cost of regular registrations. Premium domain names are offered in many TLDs and what's called tiers. You can have the regular tier at 12 bucks. You can have tier one at 30, tier two at 50, tier three at 80, tier four at 20080, tier 4 at $200 or $400. And many of the best names in some of these new TLDs have high annual premium prices. Now at Domain Cost Club they're still passing through the cost of that.

Speaker 3: 22:29

So I have some apps that are $200 a year and even though my discount registrar is maybe $220, I like the 200 I get at Domains Cost Club. You do pay an extra 5% if you fund with PayPal, but if you pre-fund your account with an ACH or with bank transfer, then you're really talking about cost-cost. The other thing I like about them is they don't sell expired names, so you get a full grace period. You're not competing against your registrar that they're going to sell your name, like GoDaddy does, at 28 days and they're going to keep the money. So you get a little bit more protection in that if you do forget to renew something, it goes into redemption. You can redeem your com, and so those are the reasons I've liked them, and I have a couple thousand names there for the last three or four years.

Speaker 2: 23:21

That is awesome.

Speaker 2: 23:22

One more big benefit that I saw and you can verify if this is in fact true but for those of you who like to overly speculate sometimes and just buy a bunch of names, they actually have something that kind of helps with a little bit of buyer's remorse.

Speaker 2: 23:39

So, according to them, they have a five day refund policy on both registrations and renewals. So in the event that you register a bunch of domains, you have five days to decide whether you want to in fact keep them or not or receive a refund on them, and same thing on the renewals. If a renewal process is on a domain you didn't mean for it to happen, according to their website, you have five days to contact them in order to get a refund on that, which is something that, if this is really truly their practice and obviously I'm referring to page about the main cause club, because this is free name is actually the first introduction for me to domain cause club, as it may be for many of you as well with the space. So if you want to tell us a little bit more about that and your experience there, sir, yeah, I haven't used that with them.

Speaker 3: 24:25

It's called. The term that the industry will use is called grace period delete and it's usually there is some limits. At some time, like with Dynadot they publish the limits. Each registrar can only get a refund on some percentage of names, so I would just put a little asterisk there. You know, I wouldn't look to abuse it, I wouldn't look to manipulate it, but I would understand what you're doing if you're playing the grace period delete game, really understand your time frames and things like that. But I have used grace period delete in the past. So why is all this important? So now we got ws introduced, we got domain cost club introduced and we have free name introduced.

Speaker 3: 25:05

I'm a consultant for and the reason I've been just fascinated to lead the charge into what I call Web 2.5 domains meaning merging Web 3.0 and Web 2.0, is so much of the action has been on the Web 3.0 side to bring Web 3.0 domains into Web 2.0 using browsers, using plugins, using things like that. But now we have this opportunity to bring the same domain name that exists in Web 2 into the Web 3 world. Even the ENS integration that GoDaddy did last year was to bring a eth name sometimes into or bring a com name into the eth ecosystem. But I think the benefit to it this is the main thing I wanted to make sure I got out on the call, marcus is that if a domain can do the Web3 function of decentralized website wallet transfer or whatever else comes down the road and that same name can also work in Web2, you don't have to give out two business cards to everybody. Here's how you get me in Web 2, and here's how you get me in Web 3. I can just use the same name because all names are unique in Web 2, and then I'm using the same name in Web 3.

Speaker 3: 26:28

So what they've done with FreeName is powered through WebUnited and Domain Cost Club is this ability to take your ws domain name, like, in my case, cryptows and now I can use that in Web3. And I don't have to tell people, go to cryptoeth or cryptox or come up with another Web3 domain name to do Web3 stuff on. I can do it on the same as my Web2. Now we're just at the very beginning, so I think there's some things that are coming soon. There's some things they have now, but it's this idea that you're holding your Web3 aspects of your domain name at the same registrar as the Web2 name and that Web2 name and that Web 3 name are paired together. They're locked together. Whoever owns the Web 2, me owns the Web 3. No one can own the Web 3 without owning the Web 2. The only person that can get the Web 3 is the person that owns the Web 2, and that's confirmed at my registrar. So that's the big announcement this week. So thank you, webunited, and thank you everybody.

Speaker 2: 27:38

Yeah, I was about to say you would own cryptows. That's a nice one.

Speaker 3: 27:44

Oh, do I own that one. Oh yeah, I was able to pick that one up.

Speaker 2: 27:48

Congrats on that one, sir. And yeah, to answer kind of the final piece of the puzzle which you did start already answering, I think everybody in this space is familiar with Freename. But yeah, this is the introduction to WebUnited. And again, just to reiterate, for those who may not be familiar with WebUnited and I might be misquoting it, but it is essentially the Web2 to Web3 arm of Freename, Essentially the Web2 to Web3 arm of Freename. It's aimed at uniting the two industries hint, WebUnited of Web2 and Web3 demaining by developing this type of cross utility, including domain mirroring. And, like you said, the future, you know the future has got a lot in store for it and they will keep shipping and building as they as they have been doing, shipping and building as they have been doing. And so far, right now, this is the first representation of that partnership on the DNS TLD level with WS, but I know that there's more down the pipeline and very excited for more things to come.

Speaker 3: 28:43

So now that everybody kind of it's a great thing because who you have on the team is you have short. The partners of WebUnited are ShortDot and Freename. So you have ShortDot, which runs, I think, two of the top 20 TLDs in terms of number of registrations, so they're experienced on the registry side. They're experienced having relationships with all the Web2 registrars. Then you've got Freename, with the extension and the Noto technology and the Web3 factor and then you've got the relationships in this case with Domain Cost Club, who's the registrar. So instead of having to re-educate or re-teach everybody some of the aspects, there's somebody in a group to cover Web2, web3, registry registrier, and so I think that they're well equipped to go ahead and go forward into this area, because it's not like they're new to any part of it. You know what I mean. They're operating already in Freename, is operating in Web 3, ShortDot is operating in Web 2.0, and so it isn't super new. I think they're already experienced in this area.

Speaker 2: 30:01

That's actually a super important point to make because, you know, any time we mention technology outside of a, especially in the Web 3.0 space, for some reason, bro, it's so weird, but any time we mention a technology outside of a certain ecosystem, there's criticism, there's people who immediately want to shut down the validity or use of that. And it's important to know that the entities that are involved in this particular partnership as you said, these are real entities, like short dots, are real registry. It doesn't matter what ecosystem and Web3 you're bullish on, you can't take anything away from that and it doesn't match up to that. An entity that owns TLDs is coming into the space utilizing, like you said, these partnerships of very successful and experienced individuals to build what will eventually provide its own sort of value in the space. There's room for more than one entity to exist and each of these entities will provide a different value, and we'll see how this all plays out as everybody continues to shift, which is why I always encourage everyone that's building instead of being on that criticizing side of the fence.

Speaker 2: 31:11

So I'm definitely glad that you pointed that out. Please, everybody so you got some names to go research. Of course, do your own research, but Domain Cause Club. That might be a new favorite tool for some of you. You've got WebUnited and then, of course, shortdot and some of the extensions that ShortDot represents is like bond yeah, bond for now that I know, and cfd and several others, and I got a chance to meet Kevin from Short when I was at NamesCon, which was a very, very pleasant conversation. So definitely glad that they are Part of this equation and looking forward for what they continue to build.

Speaker 3: 31:48

Yeah. And then when you talk about WS, so we've introduced the players, right, we have WS, we have Domain Cost Club and we've introduced the players right, we have WS, we have Domain Cost Club and we have, you know, webunited powering the technology. So now let's talk about real world. Ws exists in two places. There's two distribution cycles for WS. One is they run their own business opportunity program around the world where they sell a monthly website builder and a domain name for $10 a month and that's given them a sustainable, enduring, ongoing legacy for the past 25 years. Then they also operate in the regular domain ecosystem, selling a WS name through all the major registrars.

Speaker 3: 32:34

So on the Web2 side, say you ever do uncouple your domain name from Web2 and Web3. You have a real Web2 domain name that you can buy at other places. I mean, right now you can only tokenize it at Domain Cost Club, but they're not asking you to go outside the domain name system. You could own a WS at different places if someone wants to move it. I think there'll be more registrars in the future that will have this tokenization technology through WebUnited, but I think you have the fact that WS is portable and movable, albeit right now without the Web3. And you've got a teaser rate. So anyone that's familiar with domain names, right now, for just the domain name, you can get one at Domain Cost Club for five or six bucks, $5, $6, $5 or $6.

Speaker 3: 33:27

The Web2 part of it, if you're a Domain Cost Club member, is 20 bucks a year. So for 26 bucks a year and I think right now that includes a membership for one year or two you've got your Web 2 and your Web 3 domain name ready to go and you can experience what it's like to be able to set up wallet addresses, to set up websites, to set up decentralized email wallet addresses, to set up websites to set up decentralized email. And even though it's evolving and it's coming soon and it may not work on every network, right now you're able to start picturing where the demand will be, what the demand will be. You're able to start creatively using this in your own communities and the ways you make money in the real world and seeing how this can be applicable. And compared to maybe some of the other ones like dot box it was 160 bucks a year I think this just one is an easier one to get started with. So I think it's got a lot of great aspects.

Speaker 2: 34:26

Yeah, it definitely does. And again, there's if you guys haven't already explored the dot WS extension, even though it's been around for a long time there's a lot of opportunity there for some premium keywords and, again, can't promise you that they're going to turn into a com for you as far as for resale. But if you're looking for a great way to brand yourself, looking for something, like I said, a low cost opportunity that's a key word to sit on some digital real estate. As the space is continuing to shape this narrative of Web 2, web 3, name hacks, different branding, all that kind of stuff, because that's what's happening right now we're in. We're in the middle of a narrative being created by a whole new generation of people coming into the space and what that means, and this is hard for people who have been inside of an industry forever to ever see them being replaced by something. No one ever sees this happening. You know, like I said, the checks never saw themselves being replaced by debit. Now, I don't know how big that movement may come, but it is definitely going through a narrative shift for the different people that are entering it, such as us. And with that being said, now I kind of want to get into the benefit. So I realize a lot of people you know attend these spaces and soak in this content for several different reasons and you know a very prevalent reason is to learn how to flip their domains and they're looking for that type of opportunity and, you know, maybe some of the things that I say may inspire help in that.

Speaker 2: 36:02

But I've always made it super clear that my position in this space is to introduce tech. I love the tech. I should have been iHeartTech I actually own iHeartTecheth but, with that being said, I want to kind of get into the tech part and get into what is truly the exciting part of this collaboration, which is the fact that it is now being mirrored on-chain, and I want to start talking about what some of those things mean and, paige, you already mentioned a few of them, so it makes it kind of easier to deep dive into them. But let's talk about some of the benefits of mirroring domain or bringing a domain's ownership and control on chain, because that's essentially what you're doing. So, as you mentioned, with this pair, which now essentially it is, it's kind of like a key pair when you tokenize or mirror your Web2 domain using WebUnited onto Web3, that now Web3 asset that you own controls the Web2 asset, and that is a benefit in several different ways.

Speaker 2: 36:59

I want to talk about, kind of first, the identity portion of it, because that was what you had mentioned. Probably the key benefit of having an asset that exists on both sides of the space is that if you're bullish on this space at all, if you're planning on building or expanding your business into the space at all, accepting crypto payments, any of that good stuff this can serve as your single uniform identity and, as you said, you now don't have to walk around with two different business cards or give two different names. The concept of using a single uniform identity whether it's you know one of our Web 3 names, it gets lucky. It becomes, you know, a DNS TLD or the DNS TLDs that are becoming on Web 3. You're now able to use the same name for content. So that is building your website, where people go to to see what you actually are and interact with your brand. You're able to give them that same name now for payments, and then you're also able to use that same identity for on-chain authentication, if you're you know, the same way that we use it now.

Speaker 2: 38:03

If you're you know, have any credentials that need to be verified, on-chain or any of those things, like I said, without having to give people multiple roads to go down, and that instills trust, right, when people have one center, one thing that they have to remember and they have to recognize and, you know, kind of watch out against.

Speaker 2: 38:22

I literally just watched, or just read, a tweet before I came on the space from somebody that said that they just lost their board eight due to a phishing scam and what they checked was the first they checked the domain name. It was super clever too. The first portion of the domain name was something I think a Y2, I never use a Y2X2 or whatever io. They saw that part, but then there was the something else and something else after that and they didn't know that that now essentially makes it a completely different domain and now they got robbed. But again, if you, if you're interacting with something and this is more important than ever it would have been super cool if they had, just like I said, a uniform identity that does that people can get used to it, immediately recognize and see oh no, that's wrong if it's not that go.

Speaker 3: 39:13

Yeah, I think the reason the thing that I use to tell people about why Web3 digital identity from a functional point of view is needed, why we need change is a domain name is not enough anymore. How many of you, if you're sitting at a desktop computer or a laptop computer, you log into a site? It's not enough. You better have your cell phone next to you because they're going to send a text message. So now you've tied in your domain name with making sure that you also have a text connection that's secure to be able to get a code, to have to type that code in to be able to log in.

Speaker 3: 39:55

And I think in the Web3 world you're more likely to have what's called a DAP where you just say connect wallet. You're the owner of your wallet, you've already put in your passkey information, you control who gets access to your wallet, you control what data they can see and many times they can. You give the app permission to look in your wallet and see that you own a certain domain name. That's been web thread so you can receive crypto there. But I think the idea that a domain name has lost its ability sometimes to be the sole functioning login for many things is what gives me the hints of why we need improved technologies in this area.

Speaker 2: 40:40

Absolutely, I agree. And also now like kind of boiling down to the security of the domain itself, is another big area that I think you know. Eventually we're going to start seeing a lot of appreciation for, and maybe some more adoption in, the blockchain space, on the DNS side. So, again, for those of you who are actually buying these names, nothing wrong with buying them to flip them I got some to flip too but if you're buying these names to build on them or if you're buying these assets to truly store them as digital real estate, probably the most nerve wracking thing or the worst thing that could possibly happen is one day that real estate gets stolen from you or something that you built on, that real estate is edited or erased or something happens to it, and we've heard several cases of that happening. So, bringing this domain and bringing, like I said, the ownership and the Web3 aspect or the Web3 counterpart, it essentially now allows your domain and your DNS records to be secured by crypto keys. And so for those of us who, like I said, understand the value proposition of the blockchain, understand the concept of not your keys, not your crypto, you know you can now apply that to DNS and again being able to freely build content that is now secured by you, records that cannot be changed unless you have crypto keys. A domain that cannot be moved or altered unless you own and have those crypto keys adds a humongous security element to the space. Like I said, we have heard of several examples and I'm sure we hear about it in the vacuum, so don't know what percentage of domain names, like in the traditional domain space, end up place. So, even if you're not planning on doing anything with a domain other than use it in the traditional sense, still adding that extra level of, like I said, blockchain security to secure your DNS records is something that's just an add-on. It's not meant to change the way that you do business. Web3 is supposed to add security and benefits to existing businesses and people that want to get into the space.

Speaker 2: 43:02

And then another thing that quote unquote and so for, I'm using the term mirroring. Mirroring is the term that is the official term that is used by WebUnited to represent the tokenization of DNS domains onto Web3. But just FYI, if anybody is looking for what that word means, you can kind of cross that with tokenization. For what that word means, you can kind of cross that with tokenization. So the understanding that you guys currently have of tokenization I know a lot of you have been in plenty of spaces where we've talked about this these are those same benefits that are being brought during this partnership as well. So one of those also benefits and this is now appealing to those who have now brought these valuable pieces of real estate online you now have access to buy, sell and trade these in a decentralized manner, and that's the same benefits that we've been talking about in these conversations, especially when it comes to these larger purchases.

Speaker 2: 43:55

So the ability to instantly sell, sell both the ownership and control of the domain without a middleman or without an escrow. The ability to perhaps even fractionalize or tokenize this real estate and have multiple owners or owners that are within a DAO these things are now available once these domains are tokenized into Web3 and everything else that comes with it into Web3 and everything else that comes with it. Paige, I know we've talked about this on dozens of different spaces, but how big do you think eventually and I know that it's kind of there's a pushback in the industry right now. I saw Michael Sider's post a little bit earlier today and I saw the ones that he had made last week about kind of removing the crypto element from it. But with that benefit in mind, once people start to catch on and actually start seeing these transactions take place in these benefits, do you think the dinosaurs might change their mind?

Speaker 3: 44:55

Who cares? You know I'm tired of the Web 2 world saying you have to explain Web 3 to me, saying you have to explain web3 to me. I'm somehow owed an explanation of why the rest of the world, their needs, aren't getting met by domain names and they're searching for new alternatives. You know what, if you know, you know. So what that means is people still think that people are registering domain names because they're building a website on them and, I'm sorry, there's 100,000 names being registered every day and there's 100,000 names being dropped every day. Okay, and that's just pure speculation, hope and dream, but the price for that is so low compared to what the price is that you can get from reselling a name or using it, that it's a great business. And I just think, when you separate that and you just say that you're buying a chance, you're buying an idea, you're buying a placeholder for the future, you can either tell me that the future of Web 2 is going to get bigger and bigger and bigger, which it's not.

Speaker 3: 46:07

Internet users are flat non-Africa around the world. Are you telling me? I can bet that the Web 3 aspects of domain names are going to get bigger and I'm taking the bet for Web 3. Now, right now, I make 99% of my money buying and selling Web 2 domains. There's no doubt that's where you should be making your money right now. But when I think to the future, I'm willing to look at a different, a different thing. So this idea that we have to somehow prove to this small subset of people that have controlled the domain space for years of why this new thing works. By the time they figure it out, they'll have missed the boat, and I'm fine with that.

Speaker 2: 46:50

Yes, sir, yes sir, I'm definitely glad to hear your position on that and I share that position, as I've often shared vocally. And again, no disrespect to the traditional debaters. I learned a substantial amount from them. I network with them, obviously. I've attended Namescon for the past three years. I intend to continue to attend it, but it is important that we kind of separate what we are doing and our vision and our mission from what that vision and mission is when you're flipping and selling traditional domains. They are not the same thing. You can do them both, but one shouldn't criticize the other. We are literally ushering in a different technology and, as you said, we're essentially placing a bet that the future will eventually catch up to our optimism right, yeah, and it's not like we don't have parallels everywhere else.

Speaker 3: 47:42

You know what I mean. You can buy a pair of Air Jordans from 1985 and they cost $25,000. And you can go buy a pair of shoes at a discount store for $3. Now they're both shoes, but please don't compare the two. So I'm not comparing premium one wordcoms that have been owned for 30 years. You know what I mean with someone's hand registration that they got today. That's 27 characters long.

Speaker 3: 48:10

So I just think that there needs to be an appreciation for the fact that some things are true about awesome asset-oriented dot-coms that a lot of people own in this space. But they've owned them for so long they didn't have to pay to get those names today's prices right? I mean, rick Schwartz did not pay a million dollars to get candycom. He got it 25 years ago, right? So when they say that they're looking at the options available to a domain speculator today, they're looking at it based upon the fact of where they got their stuff 20 years ago.

Speaker 3: 48:48

Does that make sense, marcus? But we're in the real world of today where we are more likely to jump at something new even if it doesn't work, because we just don't want to be told that we have to do it the old way. Right, there's kind of a rebel, scum, rebellious streak that says I'll take a risk on this new one because I have a better place in line for this new technology, not financial advice. Do your own research, don't buy stuff that doesn't make sense. But yeah, there's something about a new technology that says maybe I can jump on it technology that says maybe I can jump on it.

Speaker 2: 49:25

Yeah, and definitely being priced out of something.

Speaker 2: 49:29

Once something becomes kind of too premium and regular people are priced out of it, it naturally makes other people want to create an opportunity somewhere else, and so, again, as nothing's going to change in the current space, again, I have my opinions on that and where that liquidity comes from, but I also don't think that anything that's going on, or the opinions of anybody in the current space, is going to stop the growth of the space that is coming, and, again, the new people that are coming into the space the new, you know, the new, I guess class of entrepreneurs.

Speaker 2: 50:03

We're already seeing plenty of examples of what they're starting to favor, which we're actually going to get into next, with some of the benefits of this TLD in particular, ie the name hacks and emojis. Before we get into that, though, I do want to welcome our friend Crypto Reporter on the stage, another individual in this space who has definitely believed in the technology of bringing Web2 domains into Web3, another visionary and definitely want to hear your input and outlook on what this partnership you think can bring to the space, as well as tokenization in general.

Speaker 4: 50:39

Hey, what's going on everybody? Gm, gm. It's good to see that you're out of the hospital, bro. I've seen some. It's funny because I used to work in a hospital, so sometimes I do grow a little numb. But seeing friends and family in the hospital, that's never a good thing. So I'm glad that you're back. On the spaces. It was funny because I was actually looking forward to last week. I was like, okay, where are these spaces at? Where's the GBM spaces and stuff like that. But now, knowing everything, it's good to see that you're, that you're back, back and better. So that's good, that's good.

Speaker 4: 51:14

But, um, yeah, you know, you guys know me and you guys know my my thoughts on working with people in the industry. They're trying to push this whole thing forward because and I said this earlier today yeah, this is really the next step, the tokenization of assets, and Larry Fink has been talking about this for a second now. You know he is the person that heads the whole BlackRock ETF and he's basically going on a rampage right now of this, pretty much saying from the top of his lungs like he's basically going on a rampage right now. He's pretty much saying from the top of his lungs like, hey, this is coming, and we need to start being prepared for this. The thing is, though, when it comes to DNS names, or domain names in particular, the benefit that the DNS names have is that, okay, they're digitally native. They're digital native assets, which means that, unlike you know a lot of these other physical assets out there, they're easier to tokenize, that you could automatically see them, automatically verify them, and so, that way, you know that, hey, you actually do own this, you actually do control this, and so I believe that it's going to be faster and easier to be able to do this with domain names than it is actual physical real estate, and that's where we definitely have the advantage.

Speaker 4: 52:35

Now, the tokenization alone won't make names more valuable, but the premium names, the names that are already good, you know the one words, the ones that are everybody are always after, those are the ones that are going to benefit the most from this, because those are the most liquid. Those are the ones that you could say hey, I have, I have this particular one word domain, and maybe I can use it as collateral. Maybe I can use it as collateral, and this is the thing that I don't agree with doing some research for a particular domain that I'm going to be brokering pretty soon. I haven't said it yet. Paige knows I think, only like two other people know but there are domains out there that actually have been used as collateral before and there are several instances of this and I'm really trying to figure out what the names were and it's actually. It will come back to me, but I've seen in the past that these things have been used as collateral and so I believe that they will continue to be used. In fact, I believe there was a domain out there by the name of Elliot who said that he's used it before.

Speaker 4: 54:13

So I believe that that is the next step. It really is the next step because you're unlocking so much value. If you're able to use this and they be able to unlock value by having a premium domain or a name that people naturally gravitate to right, you can use it as collateral, you can fractionalize it. You have the ability to use it as a wallet address. Everybody knows that on my domain page I use Mrs XYZ and I mean I heard we've been through this where I said, hey, pay me at. You know, I think it was that. You know, send it to Mrs XYZ, you know.

Speaker 4: 54:50

So it's just the simple fact of, ok, I can now send crypto, I can now send payments to a simple online identity, and I believe that that's going to be powerful.

Speaker 4: 54:59

We've seen it with happeningeth and I believe we're going to continue to see it happen with strong names. Those names are pretty much are given superpowers now. So I'm pretty excited about this. I know I'm a little all over the place, but crypto is pumping right now, so, of course, I'm getting family asking me questions about OK, well, how do you get into this and all this type of stuff. But I'm really starting to understand that not only are these things digital assets, but they're also not only are they digital property, but it's also a form of intellectual property, and that is a key component, and that I think, as more people realize what it really is, and if you're able to further communicate that to to just domainers in general or not domainers, but normal people in general that hey, this is a, this is actually intellectual property as well, and what that entails, I believe we'll be able to get more people into this space. Awesome, awesome, yeah, sorry, sorry, I know I was going yeah, that's.

Speaker 3: 56:05

I just wanted to be able to squeeze in emojis and hacks, if we could, by the top of the hour. Are we going to end at the top of the hour? Okay, okay, we'll go a little bit over.

Speaker 3: 56:14

Great stuff, Alex. I think what Crypto Reporter was sharing is just this idea. I thought of it today. Say, there was a restaurant in town or a shopping center or some type of real estate that was really popular and you're like I'd like to compete against them. It takes a long time to build an apartment complex or a commercial office building or something to compete in the real world. And where we are is digital, where it doesn't take as long to build digital disruptors and digital competitors using, whether it's like you say, the super cycle and payments and money and these assets. So digital is still a pretty good theme, in that you can disrupt faster than you can in the real world.

Speaker 2: 57:03

Yes, sir, also going kind of expanding on Crypto Reporter's point as well, as far as like collateral, I think that's another thing too, that there's a disconnect with that. It's just going to take time and examples and, you know, some education for people to start taking advantage of, but Web3 is a whole nother world and a whole nother vibe. Obviously, you know, do your research operate in the space according to the laws of where you're at, but it is extremely easy, if you have a valuable asset, to raise capital with Web3. I'm talking about you can do it in 25 minutes, as opposed to however long it takes in the real world with all the different processes that are out there takes in the real world with all the different processes that are out there. Same thing is getting a loan against your domain name. We take the example of OXB1, although that's a horrible example, but he paid 50 ETH for Trump ETH one day and was able to take out a 15 ETH loan on it that was crowdfunded pretty much as soon as he asked for it, and that's the type of liquidity I don't know that currently exists in the Web2 space, but it's something that definitely exists in the Web 3 space. And then you bring in all the degens who just want to invest in anything that'll make price go up. A lot of Web 2 domainers might find a substantial amount of opportunity financially and with liquidity on this side of the space and yeah, I do wanna get into.

Speaker 2: 58:28

So yeah, I wanted to end this space with some of those unique features I was talking about, particularly with the wstld. Interestingly enough, by their own kind of identity or suggested use, a lot of people use, and as you could probably imagine, the wstld for name hacks. I wanted to briefly explain what a name hack is for those who aren't currently familiar. Keywordcom is typically the combination that is what's considered premium or premiumkeywordcom, but a name hack is where, in lieu of the com, you use an alternative extension, such as a WS or what's another good one, like WING, to spell out the actual keyword. So it is keyword with a dot somewhere in between and then no com afterwards. So perfect example is like I have Web3 Marketing, but the ing is the TLD in that case. So Web3 Market ing spells out Web3 Marketing, namehack. In the case of ws, being so short and considering that a whole lot of words end with ws, that has been an extremely popular use case for this TLD.

Speaker 2: 59:42

One of the domains I just registered is crossbows. Right, super cool, right, one word domain and again with, with Google considering them and treating them just like GTLDs and with the ability. That's the other thing too. Right, I get it and I'm not trying to challenge like the, because I can't challenge it. Right, it's just, the industry of com exists the way it is right, but people often and super often just associate name with success of what, or the name and the revenue that the business behind the name generates.

Speaker 2: 1:00:15

They associate the two together and really you could have any name on earth and if you had an awesome business or you'd have no name at all. If you had an awesome business, it's the business that's making the money, not the name. You're using the name for branding and as a map to get people to where you want them to go. Obviously, com is the most popular solution for that, but name hacks can be an extremely popular brandable solution.

Speaker 2: 1:00:36

I personally above the opinion it doesn't matter if your name has a bunch of A's and numbers and things on them if you built a solid business. There's some businesses that for real, for real sell themselves, if you know what I'm saying. So the domain's got nothing to do with it. So, with that being the case, if you're again a new generation of business owner that understands how to market and drive revenue to your or drive, you know, traffic and all these things to your business, it may be more attractive to you to have a name that's closer to the brand that you have, and so ws may very well be the extension that you run to for that. And again, with that, with the cost and the opportunity that still exists, with the availability of names that you can register, really is kind of an open playground right now. I don't know if we wanted to add something to that page.

Speaker 3: 1:01:25

Well, the other thing you have to introduce is this idea that you can have more than one domain name pointing to the same content. So if you think that there's a different channel or a different pathway or a different, hey, looky here. You know, like those balloon guys out in the street to bring attention, that sometimes a hack is just a huh, that's kind of interesting, and maybe that's all you're trying to communicate is we've got some creativity, we're doing things a little different, and I think that's what it's always said to me is, you know, hey, we, we did a little shortcut, we did a little creative thing, and so sometimes just that can can maybe be a reason for people to check you out.

Speaker 2: 1:02:06

Yes, sir, yes sir. And some great examples that everyone's familiar with of popular name hacks that are actually in use by humongous companies that probably own their dot com but don't use it in marketing or branding is Linktree and LinkedIn, among many others. So those things can't be done. Yeah, there's always an example of it being done. The last thing and this is a big thing to me just because I love emojis, ie the iHeartDomains part is I believe this is the only. I thought there were two extensions. I don't know what the other one is.

Speaker 2: 1:02:39

I may have been wrong with that, but this is, I believe, one of the only DNS extensions that actually allows you to register emojis in a DNS domain. So, for instance and I'm going to be honest, I faded it when I first saw ws, I could have registered iHeartDomainsws. I didn't see the point in it. Now I might, unless somebody beats me to it. But for those of you who are bullish on emojis, who do feel again, we're talking about a new generation of people coming into the space Now, just like there will be a new generation of business owners that will look for unique combinations and cheaper alternatives to the dot-coms that are premium, in order to build a brand on when this starts really becoming a thing, digital identity-wise right. And so now we're getting to that side of the space where billions of people may potentially be coming into the space and looking for something attractive.

Speaker 2: 1:03:30

I really, truly believe that emojis is going to pay a big play. A big part is going to have a prominent presence in digital identity and considering that these are now digital identity, you know, due to this integration and partnership with Freename and WebUnited, what a perfect TLD. So now you're able to register, pre-register, again, speculative. Do your own research. Don't know if this will take off or not, but if you do like the attractiveness of emojis, if you do have some fun combinations and you can create some again, some premium name hacks or you know anything again, this premium name hacks or you know anything Again, this is a perfect opportunity for you to have fun with this technology and, yeah, and bringing it on chain that way as well. I know you've got some emoji domains, right, sir?

Speaker 3: 1:04:19

Yeah, it was 2017 at NamesCon when emojis kind of came on the scene. And emojis kind of came on the scene. And Emojis are risky. It's not a hundred percent guaranteed for certain that every rule applies. There's some tricks, there's some trickiness. There's some ways that they can be used deceptively. So they're not allowed in dot-com or any of the new gtld s for a reason you know.

Speaker 3: 1:04:46

You can make another letter look like an English letter. So that's the first thing is that there's a reason why emojis aren't in com. Now, does that mean there shouldn't be emojis anywhere? And this is where the ccTLDs, like WS, have a little more flexibility than the gTLDs, which are governed by ICANN, so they can be explorative, they can look at different ways to use their ccTLD, and I think WS operates what I call a managed emoji program, meaning it's not just completely one-size-fits your own risk. There's some little tweaks that they've done to make it less likely that you may be buying the wrong emoji, but in general, I love emojis because they're the only color expression, picture, domain name out there and in a world where everyone's going to see wordword, wordword, wordword, wordword. All of a sudden you've got a picture. All of a sudden you've got something in color. And if you think about emojis and I'll just finish this basic thing right now is emojis aren't something that you say, they're something that you feel. You see an emoji in a text or in a social media post or in a domain name and then you either respond by pasting it or copying it or typing it in, because emojis are what's called an IDN, an international domain name, meaning that, just like all the languages of the world which are IDNs, they have their own little code which makes them usable on the internet. Here's the difference. Here's what you have to understand about emojis. Do your own research. This is not financial advice. Emojis are the only language that's on almost every smartphone in the world.

Speaker 3: 1:06:39

There are only certain approved emojis on your keyboard. You just can't make up. I want to have a blue tree. I want to have a red up. I want to have a blue tree. I want to have a red tree. I want to have a red squirrel. I want to have a squirrel that looks like this. Those are just images. You can cut and paste those, but in terms of it actually being a character, just like the letter A, the letter B, the letter C, an emoji is its own character that may be represented by a picture, but it's on your keyboard, and that's what makes it special, because you don't have to switch your keyboard to Russian or Chinese or Japanese or Spanish or Hungarian. You just hit emoji and boom, you've got the ability to type in every emoji that's been approved. And so that's the difference on just, you know, being a emoji or just a neat little picture and an emoji domain name, and so I think they're kind of cool and I think they're kind of neat and you can get them in ws.

Speaker 2: 1:07:39

Yeah, I definitely am a fan of emojis and emojis have their own culture, not even not just in general, but I mean like an actual culture, the culture that developed emoji. So, um, yeah, definitely don't sleep on them, they, they are not going to go away. I definitely see more integration and use. Like I said, as more people come into the space utilizing, um, not only our web 3 domains but these web two mirrored domains as digital identity, this extension, the ws extension, stands out with its ability to introduce, like I said, emojis from the DNS side for those of you who are wanting to enter the digital identity space through DNS, so that you can get all those great benefits. And, yeah, going to summarize the space, I do want to thank everybody for being here, especially Paige Again, perfect person to break down the WS extensive experience in the space. If you guys don't already follow Paige, please do so. There's so much you can learn from him. Also, I do want to invite everybody to join the FreeName community. Obviously, this is a utility that is brought to us by FreeName and WebUnited. For any of you that are already, you know, experimenting and playing with tokenizing domains, we've got a new entrance into the space and you know, the biggest piece of advice I always give anybody is to diversify. So I do invite everybody to join the community, explore the platform, domain cost club, all of that. But yeah, in a nutshell, ws is now available for tokenization and mirroring into Web3. If you've already got a portfolio of them, I'm sure you can just transfer them to Domain Cost Club if you want to take advantage of this mirroring via WebUnited. Or, yeah, you can just sit on some of them, hold them. Like Paige was saying, you can actually purchase the ws TLD or domains on the ws Tld from the good amount of registrars out there, including Porkbun, where I've also registered a few.

Speaker 2: 1:09:31

And so, yeah, I do want to thank everybody for attending this tech talk. Again, congrats on the partnership for WebUnited, domain Cause Club, short dot free name. Everybody. Love that you guys are continuing to build. I encourage everyone, if you're not already following us, to follow us here on X, on WorkCast. And again, this recording or this spaces will be uploaded onto our podcast at techtalkhost where you'll be able to listen to it on any major podcast player. This also will be followed up with a blog recap for those who like to read and absorb information that way. So stay tuned in a couple of days. But yeah, I do want to thank you guys for attending my first Tech Talk back from my scare. Again, much love to everybody that showed love to me and, yeah, look forward to getting back to it next week.

Speaker 2: 1:10:18

Yeah, if you want to end with anything. Paige or share anything. Go for it before we end. I guess that is a wrap. Y'all enjoy the rest of the week and see y'all next week. Thank you.